Pusbag Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 So at the house after a good carve session with fellow carvers at bachelor trench session 2018 a term was used that started quite a discussion. I think input from the alpine community can help sort things out. Recreational Carver was the term soon followed by well I'm a medical carver. Well the banter soon went off the hook. It seems that the definitions vary quite a lot. What is a recreational carver? One that only rides 10 days a year but has the expensive gear, or one that does it only to fit in, or won't ride there group of local hardbooters for whatever reason? What is a medical carver? One that has to ride for mental health stability, or has to for physical stability, or just has to do analytical dissection of every turn made? Personally I'm a medical carver. I do it for my mental well being, it just touches my soul in a very special way. I ride for physical health too. As a gimp ass riding completely keeps me in shape physically as well. This post is part joke and ironically has some actual merit to it too. Tell me whatcha think.......this post only applies to recreational and medical carving states only LOL! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Medical Carver?? WTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburk Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Definitely medical . Keeps me sane. If all I needed was exercise, I could indulge recreationally and then just spend 45 minutes on the backyard trampoline. Something about being out on the hill, dealing with any and all kinds of weather and light, having to read terrain and snow conditions at a glance while moving down the fall line; it's all pretty habit-forming. In a good way. I noticed that what you guys from Idaho think of as poking along is probably more like my idea of fast, so there's the time-dilation effect as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 being a soft booter would that make me a special needs medical carver I ride generally a minimum of 20hrs a week 52 weeks a year January to may ill be on the mountains end of may through to December ill be riding the 150m indoor slope just lapping constantly. For me its fitness and constantly seeking the sense of flow and perfection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I'm in search of the psychological state known as flow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) So I'm just another in the line at the pharmacy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayontray Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Zen and the art of carving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, lonbordin said: I'm in search of the psychological state known as flow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) So I'm just another in the line at the pharmacy. This was main reason i got addicted for me its super easy to achieve on a board 2 turns and im mentally gone into the flow state and riding on auto pilot. Riding and racing DH mountain bikes id only ever really achieve flow in say 1 in 8 descents but on a board i can get that sense almost every run unless im working on something or riding in a white out or adverse conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt. Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I like a good scotch for medicinal purposes after recreational carving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, lonbordin said: I'm in search of the psychological state known as flow. ...Meanwhile, running the dispensary. Edited April 7, 2018 by Beckmann AG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger jr Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) In Utah , proposed law may be that you must be declared terminal before you can medically medicate. (Except for opioids). Live Free Before You Die Edited April 7, 2018 by digger jr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Nice thread Russ, Medicinal. by far. Though I think it has hit a nerve and gone much deeper than you originally intended. Not to go to far off of the rails here, but for me to find inner peace and quiet, I need to be pushing that edge between control and catastrophe, teetering there. Everett used some audio from me a few years ago in one of his Donek videos expounding on this very topic. I love finding that place of quiet, either on my mountain bike or one of my boards, where time slows down, and I become one with my conveyance of the moment, flowing, and the ride just happens, and I am at peace. Or maybe I could just try heroin, or not, I just like the adrenaline way to much we are all just a bunch of junkies waiting for our next hit of white, in this case, snow mario 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) a Surfer here, that's all I ever wanted...a Shamanic Trance that won't let you go... Carvin lets you see the Light...and Feel the Connection Edited April 7, 2018 by softbootsurfer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Medical, recreational, religious, rutsafarian. If my wife and I weren’t addicted to skiing and snowboarding one of us could quit our job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I enjoy summer but I LIVE (and work) for Winter!......and with home at 6500ft winter is usually Halloween to Memorial Day.... if not longer! So Yes, I'm addicted....... and Carving is My Drug! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkoonyMcGroomer Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I've got a fever... and the only prescription... is more carving! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Snowboarding is definitely a broad-spectrum disorder for me. I've got plenty of interests but none that I identify as solidly with as I do with snowboarding. I guess if I have to pigeon-hole what kind of snowboarding I like it would have to look something like this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 It's a wonderful madness, a glorious obsession! edited from Wikipedia Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties telling what is real and what is not. Symptoms may include false beliefs and seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear. Other symptoms may include incoherent speech and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation. There may also be sleep problems, social withdrawal, lack of motivation, and difficulties carrying out daily activities. Psychosis has many different causes......The neurotransmitter dopamine is believed to play a role. The diagnosis of a mental illness requires excluding other potential causes. Testing may be done to check for central nervous system diseases, toxins, or other health problems as a cause. Treatment may include antipsychotic medication, counselling, and social support. Early treatment appears to improve outcomes. Medications appear to have a moderate effect. Outcomes depend on the underlying cause. And Pink Floyd - Speak To Me "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hi, I'm Troy and I'm a glisse addict! I self identified as a skier before snowboards happened. Pskichosis is my genetic disposition. In casual conversation I still call it skiing. I 1st noticed the mind altering effects at age 7 during recess, running and sliding on frozen puddles and knew I was goofy long before ever hearing the term. At lunch I ran home (across the street from the school) and traded my keds for smoooth soled dress shoes and planted the seed of my gear whoring ways. These days I prefer my lines curved; that started with flexible flyers on hilly backroads, skeleton is to this day, one of my favorite olympic sports. once an addict, always an addict; there is no cure, only maintenance. Thank you all for your support 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kram Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 It must be recreational for me. I'm not sick. I don't need it anyway I can quit anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 hours ago, kram said: It must be recreational for me. I'm not sick. I don't need it anyway I can quit anytime. Yeah, right. How many days this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAlexander Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sometimes if snow conditions make a good rapid fire turn run, my hands are trembling/shaking at the end of the run. Does this make me a medical carver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kram Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Keenan said: Yeah, right. How many days this season? Just 113, it's not like I'm going up every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, kram said: Just 113, it's not like I'm going up every day Wow. You rode more this year than I have in the last 4 or 5 years. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pusbag Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Us north Idaho boys ride a lot. I don't count but I ride a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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