JRAZZ Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 We haven't had a contentious thread here for a while... What do you prefer to ride? You have to pick a side! No worming your way out of it. (I like rocker but only when I don't like camber / It's camber until I turn....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 IceCoast hardpack = cambahhh ... BB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardguru Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) I'm from the dinosaur school of riding, started riding in 1976 on rockered Wintersticks great in powder. Give me camber and Coilers now. Edited April 5, 2016 by boardguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Skis, Skwals, Alpine boards unless you only ride in perfect conditions modern technology has it hand down over old school. Don't throw away the old stuff you need to haul it out and ride it to remind yourself how we got to where we are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chouinard Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Please define camber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 What do you prefer to ride? You have to pick a side! No worming your way out of it. (I like rocker but only when I don't like camber / It's camber until I turn....) Not very well defined question... Are we talking just plain camber versus plain 100% rocker? Or, shouldn't everything in between have few categories too? Anyways, if the former was the question, I'd go camber. If subcategories are allowed, I'd go gentle camber with some rocker in the nose - aka nose decamber ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 camber please...Rocker is great on a surfboard with heavy chop I have some Rocker and I think I am off my Rocker sometimes...kind of like putting a kink in your guitar string and certainly unnecessary for the desired effect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Man, looking at this forum lately and one might think some carving addicts don't handle withdrawal well. Transitioning into summer addictions can be as hard as the boots you're wearing, so give me a little decamber with my camber for a nice spring into a smooth transition and a good edge in the next carve. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 Camber = 100% camber. No decamber nonsense. Rocker= 100% smile. No gull wing. Tip and tail go up. Period. Hybrid = camber-rocker, rocker-camber, decamber, and general waviness go here. We are all slightly unbalanced, tipping over, off our rocker, and just slightly off camber. I freely admit to loving rockers! Bring it on! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 The hybrid term is only something I've seen softbooters use to describe the various profiles manus have been experimenting with lately. Modern alpine boards are mostly camber designs with some decamber at the tip and tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilin'Dave Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Cambered Tanker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdboytyler Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) I remember Bruce telling me my Coiler Schtubby has some decamber and the SG website says my 157 Full Race has "RCR Rocker". Also, my Burton Custom has V-Rocker. So I voted "hybrid". Edited April 6, 2016 by gdboytyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Camber is power. Drops the mic.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardingJ Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 I ride them all.... For carving, camber.... or cam-rock or cam with de-cambered nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 I voted camber because I have never ridden anything else. Like saying you don't like a movie that you have never seen. I can see how a rocker board could be an advantage in soft snow (powder). It seems to me that a rockered board couldn't carve the way that I understand the physics of carving. I thought about trying a rockered board but often when I'm having a great time on my old-school board, I ask myself "what would I change about my board?"; "how could this be more fun?". Maybe I have struggled for a long time trying to get a cambered board to carve and now when I think that I'm finally starting to get it, I think rockered boards are cheating. Camber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 Camber!!!! Trying a rockered Burton was the last straw that convinced me to finally switch to hardboots and cambered alpine boards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 I have this thing; when I lean forward I actually want the tip to engage when I lean back I want the tail to push back and keep me upright. In the early 80s when all boards were rockered I kept skiing until cambered boards that actually held an edge came along. I have a rockered pow board(technically flat to rocker) and only use it in more than 1 foot deep and still miss the response in the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 Camber!!!! Trying a rockered Burton was the last straw that convinced me to finally switch to hardboots and cambered alpine boards. Accidentally taking a rockered Burton down a boardercross course was the thing that put me off rocker for life. There were times during that run when I wasn't convinced I had much life left. I'm sure it's great in the powder and all, but I wouldn't know because my cambered Rome Anthem does just fine for that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAlexander Posted April 7, 2016 Report Share Posted April 7, 2016 I like camber and decamber, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropthebody Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Friends don't let friends ride Rockers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Wait, this is like saying windows 10 has nothing to do with DOS, every board even a rockered board will be decambered when enough speed and energy are input while on edge, but if you prefer to spend most of the 160mm(130mm) off the snow, decambered, that's your problem, a rockered board uses 152mm of the 160, it's apples and oranges, a 160 that has 130mm edge will naturally release with more spring, a 160 with 152mm edge will grip like a longer cambered board, hence, less lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Camber = 100% camber. No decamber nonsense. Rocker= 100% smile. No gull wing. Tip and tail go up. Period. Hybrid = camber-rocker, rocker-camber, decamber, and general waviness go here. We are all slightly unbalanced, tipping over, off our rocker, and just slightly off camber. I freely admit to loving rockers! Bring it on! :) Why do I get the feeling this is about freeride boards? For alpine boards, camber with nose rocker (a.k.a. early rise or nose decamber) is not nonsense in the slightest. It was a game changer when first introduced, and you cannot be competitive in any race course without it. It works awesome for freecarving too. Gull-wing or mustache camber/rocker hybrid seems like a joke to me, but I've never ridden it. You won't catch any BXer using it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) Why do I get the feeling this is about freeride boards? For alpine boards, camber with nose rocker (a.k.a. early rise or nose decamber) is not nonsense in the slightest. It was a game changer when first introduced, and you cannot be competitive in any race course without it. It works awesome for freecarving too. Gull-wing or mustache camber/rocker hybrid seems like a joke to me, but I've never ridden it. You won't catch any BXer using it. 1989, Safari, 205cm. Rockered nose, slight base bevel at nose/tail, TWO cambered sections, one just forward of mid-stance, one higher arch under the rear foot towards the tail. Variable quadratic sidecut, too. 62 mph in the slush at The Open. Game changer, yup. Edited April 16, 2016 by Eric Brammer aka PSR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 1989, Safari, 205cm. Rockered nose, slight base bevel at nose/tail, TWO cambered sections, one just forward of mid-stance, one higher arch under the rear foot towards the tail. Variable quadratic sidecut, too. 62 mph in the slush at The Open. Game changer, yup.Funny how "what's old is new again" becomes business as usual in the snowboard industry, as far as trends and "technology" go. Speaking of speed and slush, a repeat customer bought one of my Hammerhead 181cm boards this weekend for a 213 feet pond skimming event. First run on the board, never ridden it, he was clocked by radar at 63mph in heavy slush and managed to cross the entire pond. :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 a repeat customer bought one of my Hammerhead 181cm boards this weekend for a 213 feet pond skimming event. I can't wait to try this little gem of quiver-expansion rationale with my own wife... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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