Popular Post Shred Gruumer Posted December 1, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 Virus AFT Zylon 160 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMKW Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 Zylon AND parkay? I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 I feel like they should rotate it 45 degrees...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMKW Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Believe it or not,I googled it before adding the comment, and there is in fact cross-hatch parkay. As funny as the joke maybe, the board is beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 hours ago, DMKW said: Believe it or not,I googled it before adding the comment, and there is in fact cross-hatch parkay. As funny as the joke maybe, the board is beautiful! Parquet is patterned wood flooring. Parkay is a brand of margarine. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMKW Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Omg, that's funny. Thanks for the correction. I'm certain no Virus would ever be made with margarine...they'd use only the best European creamery butter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 22 hours ago, Shred Gruumer said: Virus AFT Zylon 160 Wow!!! Nice one Almost ordered the X-Carve this year with the 27.5 waist. No money this year ... next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextcarve Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 6:33 PM, Shred Gruumer said: Virus AFT Zylon 160 Overseas, we call it beach mat pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted December 7, 2023 Report Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 7:09 PM, Shred Gruumer said: Let's see more photos in natural light...nice job. its on the way to me! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowburn Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 2:58 AM, slapos said: its on the way to me! Use the force! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) It took over a year but it's finally HERE!!! 170 long, 19 wide, 13m sidecut radius. "Twin tail" shape. Fully symmetrical, flat between the bindings, the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings with a 1.25m radius. The idea is to have the effective edge start short for low-speed skid maneuverability, and then the edge grows longer the more you lean into a carve. I've been wanting to do this for a couple years, and I'm so stoked that this board exists now. Can't wait to ride it. Edited December 10, 2023 by NateW 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) Ok now this is interesting, I love it!! Sooooo…why??? A symmetrical carving board that has low-speed skid maneuverability? Do you have some sort of unique death wish and like to hardboot through moguls or butter or hit booters or something?? It feels like you may have a super unique type of application or else you’re a completely insane mad scientist with money to burn!! **Edit, just saw your next post in the Park topic, so you’re the only person alive who wants to ride hard boots, a narrow board and posi angles in a park. This man likes to take his knife to…..a tomato fight? There is no analogy for this. Good on Winterstick for building a one of one and fun to hear about someone doing weird shit!!! Edited December 10, 2023 by ShortcutToMoncton 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, NateW said: The idea is to have the effective edge start short for low-speed skid maneuverability, and then the edge grows longer the more you lean into a carve. Huh? This hurts my brain to put this into a real world context.................you playing pinball off the Joeys when they crash and burn in the park????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 @NateW Well done to both you and Winterstick! I think it is so creative of a design. You just might be on to something that is another breakthrough for the sport. Because this is such a niche sport, our board builders do not have deep pockets for R&D in the carving line up, so it takes people with ideas and money to help push the progression. i am excited to hear how the carving performance is. You just never know till you try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago. I don't recall hearing how well it worked. Honestly I'm skeptical! 8 hours ago, NateW said: the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings with a 1.25m radius Is there a typo here? I'd love to see a side profile drawing. And what's the length, waist, sidecut? Hope you got the kitchen sink construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Camber profile reminds me of the Tinkler Sandman. I bent my prototype tester Ace Skwal GMP 165 in the middle so it’s basically a rocker profile now. Rides better than ever if you ask me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jack M said: Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago. I don't recall hearing how well it worked. Honestly I'm skeptical! Yep, i had full rocker Tinkler in past. it worked fine but i must say it was not my best board for very hard packed snow, but for softer surface i had no issue with that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svr2 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, *Ace* said: Camber profile reminds me of the Tinkler Sandman. I bent my prototype tester Ace Skwal GMP 165 in the middle so it’s basically a rocker profile now. Rides better than ever if you ask me Yes, that was the idea behind my Tinkler Sandman and also the Flat-Rockered Tankers. same concept 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Jack M said: Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago. I don't recall hearing how well it worked. Honestly I'm skeptical! Is there a typo here? I'd love to see a side profile drawing. And what's the length, waist, sidecut? Hope you got the kitchen sink construction. Not a typo... I seem to have run out of upload capacity so I put my CAD sketch here: https://imgur.com/a/sD8aZd9 170cm x 19cm, 13m sidecut. My initial draft had a longer nose/tail rocker radius and shorter flat section, but I started to worry that if the radius is too long, it might be too prone to digging in / hanging up on bumps and jumps, rather than riding over them. Well after I placed the order, I saw the profile diagram of Rad-Air's rocker/flat/rocker design and kinda wished I'd thought of that. They use a larger radius from the binding to about halfway to the tip/tail (to keep the flat middle short) and a shorter radius from the halfway point to the tip and tail (to help it get over rough terrain). But I'm optimistic about how this is going to work. I probably should have mentioned that I like very stiff boards. My last two daily-driver Donek boards were very very stiff, which makes them great for carving, and I like the extra support if my weight gets too far over the nose or tail in moguls or landing jump... I can just heave myself back to the center without the board curling up and letting me fall over the front or back. Plus, the stiffer my boards are, the longer they last. The drawback to a very stiff board with a 13m sidecut is that low-speed maneuverability gets a little awkward. Every bit of that edge wants to carve. I had a powder board a couple years ago that had a flat center and 13m radius, and I just loved how nimble it was at low speeds, mostly due to the short effective edge. So the goal here is to get that nimbleness and still have enough stiffness and effective edge to be able to carve the same as ever. This board came out less stiff than expected, but Winterstick has offered to make a second one, stiffer, at no charge if that turns out to be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Hahaha this hot take is amazing: “I love to take my narrow hardboot alpine board to the park……but only if it’s super stiff” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 4 hours ago, NateW said: I seem to have run out of upload capacity You can delete old attachments to free up space, or buy a subscription to get more space. 4 hours ago, NateW said: https://imgur.com/a/sD8aZd9 OK. That's a bit different than "the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings". ~50cm stance width is pretty common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Here's the latest to my lineup all Plated up and Ready to Rip! .......which will be sometime in March/April when I'm allowed back on the hill from hamstring and ankle surgery! MK Mutant 20w UPM for Donek F Plate TD3 SW SI's running 3/6 60/65 Edited December 11, 2023 by barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvin' Marvin Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, barryj said: What gives?? Was the water in the pool cold? I'm sure they're much bigger in person. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, barryj said: Hmm.....I'm only allowed a file size of 1.7kb....that's a spec of a photo! What gives?? You are at 99% of your free allotted 10MB attachment quota. You can delete old attachments by clicking your name then My Attachments, or you can buy a subscription to get more space. Unfortunately, the bigger the database, the more it costs me to run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 7:07 PM, Jack M said: OK. That's a bit different than "the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings". ~50cm stance width is pretty common. Good observation. The original plan was to have the nose and tail truly start curling up as early as possible, but I started to worry about what would happen if I approached a jump with a transition radius tighter than my nose radius... So, I reduced the nose/tail radius to 1.25m, but kept the 5cm height, and that stretched out the flat section a bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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