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It took over a year but it's finally HERE!!!

170 long, 19 wide, 13m sidecut radius.

"Twin tail" shape. 🙂 

Fully symmetrical, flat between the bindings, the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings with a 1.25m radius. The idea is to have the effective edge start short for low-speed skid maneuverability, and then the edge grows longer the more you lean into a carve.

I've been wanting to do this for a couple years, and I'm so stoked that this board exists now. Can't wait to ride it.

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Ok now this is interesting, I love it!! 

Sooooo…why??? 😃  A symmetrical carving board that has low-speed skid maneuverability? Do you have some sort of unique death wish and like to hardboot through moguls or butter or hit booters or something??

It feels like you may have a super unique type of application or else you’re a completely insane mad scientist with money to burn!! 🤣🤘🏼
 

**Edit, just saw your next post in the Park topic, so you’re the only person alive who wants to ride hard boots, a narrow board and posi angles in a park. This man likes to take his knife to…..a tomato fight? There is no analogy for this. 🤣 Good on Winterstick for building a one of one and fun to hear about someone doing weird shit!!! 

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4 hours ago, NateW said:

The idea is to have the effective edge start short for low-speed skid maneuverability, and then the edge grows longer the more you lean into a carve.

Huh?   This hurts my brain to put this into a real world context.................you playing pinball off the Joeys when they crash and burn in the park????? 

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@NateW  Well done to both you and Winterstick!  I think it is so creative of a design.  You just might be on to something that is another breakthrough for the sport. 
Because this is such a niche sport, our board builders do not have deep pockets for R&D in the carving line up, so it takes people with ideas and money to help push the progression.

i am excited to hear how the carving performance is.  You just never know till you try.  

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Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago.  I don't recall hearing how well it worked.  Honestly I'm skeptical!  😜

8 hours ago, NateW said:

the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings with a 1.25m radius

Is there a typo here?  I'd love to see a side profile drawing.

And what's the length, waist, sidecut?

Hope you got the kitchen sink construction.

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1 hour ago, Jack M said:

Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago.  I don't recall hearing how well it worked.  Honestly I'm skeptical!  😜

Yep, i had full rocker Tinkler in past. it worked fine but i must say it was not my best board for very hard packed snow, but for softer surface i had no issue with that one.

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3 hours ago, *Ace* said:

Camber profile reminds me of the Tinkler Sandman.


I bent my prototype tester Ace Skwal GMP 165 in the middle so it’s basically a rocker profile now. Rides better than ever if you ask me 😅

Yes, that was the idea behind my Tinkler Sandman and also the Flat-Rockered Tankers.

same concept 👍🤘😎🏂

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4 hours ago, Jack M said:

Pretty sure @pokkis had a full-rocker alpine board made several years ago.  I don't recall hearing how well it worked.  Honestly I'm skeptical!  😜

Is there a typo here?  I'd love to see a side profile drawing.

And what's the length, waist, sidecut?

Hope you got the kitchen sink construction.

Not a typo... I seem to have run out of upload capacity so I put my CAD sketch here:

https://imgur.com/a/sD8aZd9

170cm x 19cm, 13m sidecut.

My initial draft had a longer nose/tail rocker radius and shorter flat section, but I started to worry that if the radius is too long, it might be too prone to digging in / hanging up on bumps and jumps, rather than riding over them.

Well after I placed the order, I saw the profile diagram of Rad-Air's rocker/flat/rocker design and kinda wished I'd thought of that. They use a larger radius from the binding to about halfway to the tip/tail (to keep the flat middle short) and a shorter radius from the halfway point to the tip and tail (to help it get over rough terrain). 

But I'm optimistic about how this is going to work. 

I probably should have mentioned that I like very stiff boards. My last two daily-driver Donek boards were very very stiff, which makes them great for carving, and I like the extra support if my weight gets too far over the nose or tail in moguls or landing jump... I can just heave myself back to the center without the board curling up and letting me fall over the front or back. Plus, the stiffer my boards are, the longer they last.

The drawback to a very stiff board with a 13m sidecut is that low-speed maneuverability gets a little awkward. Every bit of that edge wants to carve. I had a powder board a couple years ago that had a flat center and 13m radius, and I just loved how nimble it was at low speeds, mostly due to the short effective edge. So the goal here is to get that nimbleness and still have enough stiffness and effective edge to be able to carve the same as ever.

This board came out less stiff than expected, but Winterstick has offered to make a second one, stiffer, at no charge if that turns out to be a problem.

 

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4 hours ago, NateW said:

I seem to have run out of upload capacity

You can delete old attachments to free up space, or buy a subscription to get more space. 😉

4 hours ago, NateW said:

OK.  That's a bit different than "the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings".  ~50cm stance width is pretty common.

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Here's the latest to my lineup all Plated up and Ready to Rip!  .......which  will be sometime in March/April when I'm allowed back on the hill from hamstring and ankle surgery!  :smashfrea

MK Mutant 20w UPM for Donek F Plate  TD3 SW SI's running 3/6 60/65

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, barryj said:

Hmm.....I'm only allowed  a file size of 1.7kb....that's a spec of a photo!  

What gives??

You are at 99% of your free allotted 10MB attachment quota.  You can delete old attachments by clicking your name then My Attachments, or you can buy a subscription to get more space.  Unfortunately, the bigger the database, the more it costs me to run.

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On 12/10/2023 at 7:07 PM, Jack M said:

OK.  That's a bit different than "the nose and tail curl up just outside of the bindings".  ~50cm stance width is pretty common.

Good observation. The original plan was to have the nose and tail truly start curling up as early as possible, but I started to worry about what would happen if I approached a jump with a transition radius tighter than my nose radius... So, I reduced the nose/tail radius to 1.25m, but kept the 5cm height, and that stretched out the flat section a bit.

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