SunSurfer Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) On 1/2/2022 at 2:49 PM, TVR said: With Lake Tahoe shattering a 50 year record, does this mean we are heading for an ice age from climate change? LOL, not with you, AT you! Go and learn water chemistry, as well as carbon dioxide chemistry. Warmer air gathers more moisture when it's over the sea, then holds more moisture, until it gets cold. Then it may rain, or even snow, and there will be MORE than there might have been. Maybe even breaking a 50 year record. But it will turn from snow at 31 degrees F to water at 33 degrees F. Don't confuse cold with snow. Ever heard of the McMurdo Dry Valleys in Antarctica?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMurdo_Dry_Valleys And if you really want to know more about it, rather than just being a blowhard (if it walks like a duck...) try reading the latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Report on the Physical Science Basis of global heating. https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM_final.pdf Edited January 4, 2022 by SunSurfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 Ah, the joys of discussions...... Let me guess... when this thread is cancelled because of the tone, you will blame me for that as well, quack, quack, quack? Love the irony of you calling me a blowhard, but I doubt you will see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 hours ago, TVR said: Ah, the joys of discussions...... Let me guess... when this thread is cancelled because of the tone, you will blame me for that as well, quack, quack, quack? Love the irony of you calling me a blowhard, but I doubt you will see it... I think that maybe the satire in your original post was a little too subtile, and that people were a little quick to assume that you would be so audatious as to try discrediting climate science with a single, cherry-picked, datapoint? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 hours ago, st_lupo said: were a little quick to assume 100% guilty on my part. My bad, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 say what you will, most likely there won't be a ski area in Colorado in twenty years, that is an Observation on not Moisture, but rather Temperature, Raining on Ajax at 12,000 ft. at Midnight, in January, is a Wake Up call, that is alarming, after 50 something years here, it is quite obvious... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 anyone here remember the last expression session here ? Jim and Angies where it rained the last day... over 40 degrees in Aspen today Jan. 7th, giant melt down and will freeze then tonight for frozen hardback...98 % of Scientist on Earth know it is happening, yet even my own son in law is like, Huh, that is not happening, Man has no control over the weather...just Fake media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 7:32 AM, softbootsurfer said: Raining on Ajax at 12,000 ft. at Midnight, in January, is a Wake Up call, that is alarming, after 50 something years here, it is quite obvious... Yeah, I don’t know, man; the earth looks pretty flat from here… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 howdy snowing off and on with some good dumps and looking at my driveway with 8 inches of snow to shovel. as I am shoveling it starts to get a little heavy with warming temps. almost finished, but still had the driveway for another day. took a break and had a little more to clean up about 3:30pm and went back out and it was raining, temp was 41 degrees... last week was cold… Farmers’ Almanac "flip-flop conditions" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted February 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) howdy on point … interesting … the vid above was the full episode of NOVA : Arctic Sinkholes ... Edited July 29, 2022 by west carven added what the vid was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 Both of the planet's poles experience extreme heat, and Antarctica breaks records: https://www.npr.org/2022/03/19/1087752486/antarctica-record-heat-arctic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 Another one was here:https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/03/18/antarctica-heat-wave-climate-change/ record "heat" now... (heat is in quotes as it is still below freezing, so not heat.. its all relative to mammals and all) also: "the South Pole observed just observed its coldest April to September period on record last year, with an average temperature of minus-78 degrees (minus-61 Celsius)". Not an insignificant 8 month time period ... The aspect of the South Pole being a coldest ever time and also a warmest time ever within a single year are, I would argue, signs of the Earths conveyor belt slowing.... this is one of the first signs of such an event. I have touched on this aspect earlier... This is also a nuanced subject. As an example, as the world looks to reduce pollution and yet be global, they often overlook some aspects: https://newatlas.com/shipping-pollution/11526/ Each of these super cargo ships pollution is equal to 50 million cars.... Maybe make more domestic? Wood products alone, sourced in the Americas for timber, sent to China, and then purchased back in the Americas alone... Well, we can do the math on that .... let's add some more perspective ... there are 90,000 cargo ships traveling the seas currently.... In a single year 15 of the largest cargo ships produce the same amount of pollution as all the cars in the entire world... And this does not address any other form of transport..... So, again... this has nuances bigger than reduced driving. I don't offer a solution other than maybe to consume local more... Shutting down pipelines and shipping oil at the above figures doesn't seem to be helping if reduction is the goal... If the conveyor belt theory holds true, as I believe that to be, then the desalination means I expect more of the record cold as well as the elevated heat maps to become more common..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 When people tell Neil deGrasse Tyson that they don't believe in Global Warming he tells them they might as well not believe in gravity.... A half century ago I was the morning meteorologist at the NBC affiliate in Tampa and taught introductory Climatology and Meteorology at the University of South Florida. The changes that have occurred just in that period of time are truly disturbing. University of British Columbian Climate Scientist Simon Donner posted this three years ago. Sobering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted March 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 howdy what can I do to make it a better carving snow season … not really mentioned is what effect it has on food source … o.k. composting, but what ...I am a hungry carver and miss velvet cords … ride a bike ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/31/many-of-new-zealands-glaciers-could-disappear-in-a-decade-scientists-warn Consistent and long term trend for glacier recession for over 100 years, late 1800s photo comparison,with annual glacier extent photographic survey since 1977. This is the effect of climate, not short term fluctuations in weather. Edited March 31, 2022 by SunSurfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted July 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 howdy this is alarming ... shrinking lake mead ... Lake Mead provides water to the states of Arizona, California, and Nevada as well as some of Mexico, providing sustenance to nearly 20 million people and large areas of farmland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) Mind boggling. I grabbed three screenshots from the video. Top is a month old, middle is two weeks and bottom is present. Edited July 26, 2022 by patmoore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 The irony. Climate change driven drought being told by a couple of guys assumedly idling their truck for hours along with hundreds of other trucks to get a couple hours of buzzing around lake mead. I didn't watch the whole video; did they find any bodies in those barrels? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 if choice is between to cry/laugh. i tend to laugh on the absurdity of it all. water-diamond paradox is an interesting concept ref: i am sure there are more nuanced explanation out therehttps://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/07/25/632473671/the-diamond-water-paradox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR Posted July 28, 2022 Report Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, st_lupo said: did they find any bodies in those barrels? Not in the barrels:https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/07/26/lake-mead-human-remains-drought/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 substitute swim for drinking.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 And don't forget that it is legally allowed to have up to 10mg of rat poop per pound in your cocoa beans! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted August 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 howdy Lake Mead Keeps Dropping ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300669151/more-than-130-staff-made-redundant-at-mt-ruapehu--troa-skifield-closed Mt Ruapehu has 2 major ski areas on it, run by Ruapehu Alpine Lifts, a non-profit organisation that because of steadily declining visitor numbers was already in financial trouble before this year's disastrous snow season on Ruapehu. With Turoa now closed till further notice Whakapapa on the northern side of the mountain has only some lifts running. In contrast the ski areas in the South Island have had more snow this year than for 20 years. I suspect the contrast this year will accelerate the flight of skiers and boarders to the South Island. How much longer Ruapehu Alpine Lifts will remain in business is anyone's guess! Edited August 24, 2022 by SunSurfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) On 7/29/2022 at 3:39 AM, st_lupo said: And don't forget that it is legally allowed to have up to 10mg of rat poop per pound in your cocoa beans! if it's monkey poop in your coffee, some people even pay extra for it. Edited August 24, 2022 by Allee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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