FelixD Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Hi Folks, what brand/model of snow pants you choose when you ride with hardboot setting? I do see most of the pro players choose the snow pants short enough only to reach to their ankles so it is easier for them to adjust buckles and strap faster.Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabber Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Interested as well. I'm 5'6" and 32" waist so keen to find out what others use and sizing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 The best I have found so far are the Flylow Chemical pants. They are on the slightly shorter side of things (compared to SB specific pants) and they have been really durable so far. Earlier pants that I have used are Analog, Neff and Burton AK. The Analog (well built) and Neff (utter crap) pants were all too long in the legs for my size waist (and I am pretty tall) so the cuffs get all sliced up. The Burton AK (Cyclic) were decent pants but like most other pants don't hold up well to carving. The back pockets were a problem where after a couple of heel-side wipe-outs and the storm flap tore open. Now that back pocket zipper just auto opens all the time. The material also doesn't like dragging in the snow much so the knees started looking pretty ragged after a few years. I got the Flylow pants at the start of this season and I'm really happy with them, with one caveat: they are the most breezy pants that I have had. While waterproofness is good, they have a ton of vents so a hard wind will find its way inside. This is fine for me since I normally run pretty hot when riding and I guess you can just layer up if you need to. The knees and cuffs have heavy cordura-like reinforcements which seem to scuff up just a little when the snow gets in the way of the knees, but it is holding up really well. The length is absolutely perfect. Long enough that you don't look like a gaper, short enough that you don't walk on your cuffs. They are a bit pricey if you get the current year's models, but I've been able to buy 1-2 year old items direct from Fly Low's website at big discounts. I've also got a Flylow jacket that I've been using for the past 6 years and despite being made of relatively thin material, it has been holding up really well to lots of abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Bib-style without sew-on pockets on the outside of the thighs or the butts. Ride them a few times, then have a tailor add Keprotec where they show wear. Thankfully my old pants that I bought over twenty years ago came with a lot of Keprotec which I kept when they disintegrated. The stuff still holds up amazingly. Edited February 23, 2022 by Aracan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 I go with something that fits me, waterproof, breathable, is on the discount rack, and no pockets or seams on the left hip or right thigh. Then I spray Plasti-Dip on the knee areas to make them last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSR-Alex Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Pants designed for skiing are more durable in the pant cuff area and sometimes the knee. I always look for pants with the cuff area reinforced. They tend to be slightly shorter than snowboard pants so they don't drop too low on the boot. For myself, I went with the Tobe mono-suit and never looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, VSR-Alex said: Tobe mono-suit +1 on the Tobe mono suit. Super high quality, fit, engineering, and fabrics. @svr and @johnasmo would agree. 5’11 175 medium size 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Virtika bibs! Can't fall down, bomb proof and Great price! $229 https://www.virtika.com/product-category/signature-pants/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdahbonz Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Flylow and Trew are burly and lots of vents so my go to pants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, dredman said: +1 on the Tobe mono suit. Super high quality, fit, engineering, and fabrics. @svr and @johnasmo would agree. 5’11 175 medium size Don’t onesies reek when you take them off, especially after chile con carne especiale in the bar??? At least separate jackets/pants work as an over-pressure valve. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VSR-Alex Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, st_lupo said: Don’t onesies reek when you take them off, especially after chile con carne especiale in the bar??? https://www.amazon.com/Prevention-Bloating-Relief-Tablets-Packaging/dp/B00ANL4WMI They are not designed to work well for après ski; great for everything else. Some of the newer jacket and pant combinations from other companies (Volcom, etc.) zip together. If only they were constructed as strongly as the Tobe mono-suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhufish Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, VSR-Alex said: Some of the newer jacket and pant combinations from other companies (Volcom, etc.) zip together. I have a matching set of Volcom jacket and pants. The zipper works as advertised. It has mostly the same pros and cons as a regular powder skirt, except it’s better at blocking snow. I’m not sure it’s worth tying yourself to one brand over though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Army surplus bibs on real cold days and anything that fits the waist all other times. Function over fashion is my new rule and hoping I can wear everything out before I die. If it still looks decent by the time I do die they can bury me in it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 I have a pair of MEC 3-layer goretex shell pants, designed for backcountry use - they're the ones I am wearing in my avatar. No idea if they make that particular model any more, I've had them for a long time. At the time they were about 1/2 to 2/3 of the price of similar constructed top brand pants. Unlike Corey I don't have concerns with tearing them on the snow, I simply never get that low, or so seldom it's not an issue. They fit overtop of the boots. It's easy enough to pull them up if I need to adjust the top two buckles. I run stepins and just keep the handle under the pants, it's easy to grab the handle through the pants. They are a little narrow for my soft boots though, it's a pretty snug fit over the top of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Neil Gendzwill said: I have a pair of MEC 3-layer goretex shell pants, designed for backcountry use - they're the ones I am wearing in my avatar. No idea if they make that particular model any more, I've had them for a long time. At the time they were about 1/2 to 2/3 of the price of similar constructed top brand pants. They don't. I had some of those too, and they were bombproof. They stopped fitting over my legs when I took up weightlifting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Allee said: They don't. I had some of those too, and they were bombproof. They stopped fitting over my legs when I took up weightlifting I think MEC has stopped making a lot of their good stuff, they're just another boutique brand retailer these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 5 hours ago, st_lupo said: Don’t onesies reek when you take them off, especially after chile con carne especiale in the bar??? At least separate jackets/pants work as an over-pressure valve. The Dutch Oven… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowburn Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 hours ago, st_lupo said: Don’t onesies reek when you take them off, especially after chile con carne especiale in the bar??? At least separate jackets/pants work as an over-pressure valve. That's how you keep warm on the cold days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, snowburn said: That's how you keep warm on the cold days. Do you get carbon credits if you never unzip? Methane sequestering? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Job Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Patagonia, as they are the one of the very few that have a lifetime waranty/fix program. Rip? They will likely either repair it, or replace it; no cost to you. Mine have held up for about 100 days this season. There are wear areas from when I was practicing getting low and just cheated on really hard abrasive snow earlier this season (October/November...). I plan to send them in for a repair after this season ends. Almost nothing should be dragging, although it's so easy to just flop it over and have body parts hit and go around the turn, repeat, etc.... Body parts hitting is slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 I don’t think it’s cheating or easy to drag a hip on the snow, it’s a result of getting low not necessarily flopping. That’s when you see the wear on the pants of people skilled enough to do so. Do you think Patagonia would warranty a pant that has been abused in this fashion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slabber Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Neil Gendzwill said: I have a pair of MEC 3-layer goretex shell pants, designed for backcountry use - they're the ones I am wearing in my avatar. No idea if they make that particular model any more, I've had them for a long time. At the time they were about 1/2 to 2/3 of the price of similar constructed top brand pants. Unlike Corey I don't have concerns with tearing them on the snow, I simply never get that low, or so seldom it's not an issue. They fit overtop of the boots. It's easy enough to pull them up if I need to adjust the top two buckles. I run stepins and just keep the handle under the pants, it's easy to grab the handle through the pants. They are a little narrow for my soft boots though, it's a pretty snug fit over the top of those. 14 hours ago, Allee said: They don't. I had some of those too, and they were bombproof. They stopped fitting over my legs when I took up weightlifting My current go to pants are some old MEC pants as well... prob 25 y.o. 3 ply goretex. My wife mocks me for them, given the old skool color combo. But I don't mind There is some delamination visible in a couple spots and I've had repairs done on a couple of cuts a few years ago by an excellent gear repair shop we have here on the Quebec side. They only just fit over the boot cuffs but they still work well. Edited February 24, 2022 by slabber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allee Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 That's them. Mine were black and blue, but same design and definitely old school! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Mine are a lot newer than that, they even have the Recco thing built in. But I also still have my old Integral Designs pants, bought from Textile Outfitters when they shared the building with the original MEC location in Calgary. 89 I am thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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