daveo Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, lordmetroland said: I'm totally confused by this. Do you mean that I can't seek a refund if the leg-breaking is not to my satisfaction? Or if the leg in question fails to stay broken? Or are you suggesting I cannot petition for money back from my Holy and Omnipotent Creator if the leg is broken in the first place? This, of course, is ridiculous, because an Omnipotent Creator would never produce an imperfect leg in the first place, making it clear that the break is my responsibility. Snowboarding is hard... All of the above, obviously. Edit: sorry tuned out half way through that epic paragraph. Got through it this time. One might believe you're over thinking things. But all in all yes, God and stuff and things. Amen. Edited June 11, 2019 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Your on dangerous ground here buddy this is sounding very religeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 @lordmetroland should ride with a plate. Beyond an isolation plate's obvious benefits, they also enable the rider to board and ponder the mysteries of the universe at the same time. Snowboarding is hard, philosophy ..... I'll have to think about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechocolate Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Even wearers of fine clown boots and gunboats should benefits from a plate, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 7:39 AM, lowrider said: Your on dangerous ground here buddy this is sounding very religeous. sent you a PM about something else dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Latest tech! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) That right there is taking snowboard suspension and isolation to a whole `nother level... Edited June 13, 2019 by big mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 the suspension is great but the stack height is a bit much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 6:54 PM, Jack M said: I would recommend either the Donek AF or Apex X over any Vist gen-1 type plates. Jack....are you saying that if I love my UPM BP V2 4mm lite....and I Do! ....that I'm gonna be OMG!!! with a UPM Donek or Vist plate?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darko714 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 I have a set of Hangl plates that I pulled off a used Prior wcrm metal a few years ago because they made the board seem too heavy without helping my riding. Anyone here have an opinion as to whether it would be worth it to put them back on next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Never ridden a Hangl but I love plates and prefer to ride a plate vs no plate except for all mountain style riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 9:12 PM, barryj said: Jack....are you saying that if I love my UPM BP V2 4mm lite....and I Do! ....that I'm gonna be OMG!!! with a UPM Donek or Vist plate?? I never rode the 4mm lite, but I felt the 5mm V1 was too stiff in every way. Your plate sounds like it might be more like an Apex X, just taller. So I’d say my answer to your question is no. And I don’t think a UPM Vist plate exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebeard Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) I think there is some compelling information demonstrated here: Edited September 3, 2019 by Treebeard spell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowburn Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I like the vibration absorption. Less rider fatigue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 4:20 PM, darko714 said: I have a set of Hangl plates that I pulled off a used Prior wcrm metal a few years ago because they made the board seem too heavy without helping my riding. Anyone here have an opinion as to whether it would be worth it to put them back on next season? Yeah, in a narrow set of conditions hangls work really effing well. The rest of the time they are the pits. Icy day with a moderate amount of chop and they work every bit as well as most other systems at low but not slow speeds. the rest of the time they’re too heavy, don’t filter as much out as most other systems, too heavy, have too many parts to lose, are too heavy, put a lot of pressure on the points they mount to the board, are too heavy, are a nightmare to swap between board and, did I mention they’re too heavy? The hangls in my experience work way way better on a slalom type board than any other type of board. I still have a hangl only Kessler I contemplated T-nutting it but could bear the idea of hurting the old girl. That board, is the finest piece of engineering I’ve ever been lucky enough to attach to my boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 10:33 PM, Jack M said: I never rode the 4mm lite, but I felt the 5mm V1 was too stiff in every way. Your plate sounds like it might be more like an Apex X, just taller. So I’d say my answer to your question is no. And I don’t think a UPM Vist plate exists. Anyone that rides sugarloaf have 5mil plate? Wanna try one, I’m fat, the stiff 4mil is almost too soft for me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 As www.carvers.it we made a lot of tests on different materials. Almost all the plates we have ride gives advantages and disadvantages. The main problem is the weight. So we decided to build our own plate starting from a disc of delrin, a square of rubber and a sheet of aluminum. After some years of evolution and changes now we are building a very light and performing plate that gives a smooth riding with quick response and a lot of edge grip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technick Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 2:48 PM, snowburn said: ... Now I would like to lay it down! If you want to go on the path of Extreme Carving (EC) to lay it down, forget isolation plates, buy an EC board with softer hardboots like the Deeluxe 325 or the UPZ XC12. EC boards are wider, more versatile than thin and stiff race boards. The stance is also more comfortable, rear foot is usually between 45 and 50 deg.... Combined with softer boots you will have a setup you can ride all day, carving the groomers and laying it down in the morning and still carve the chops in the afternoon... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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