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Bobby Buggs

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Ok so I have had my share of boards but I realized I might ride 2 of them if that. With the versatility that we get from the current builders Why do we need to have 5 or 6 alpine boards. Tell me how many boards you actually ride and I dont mean just a couple runs. I can see having your Carving machine and a Powder board even though many of us see a powder day once every 3 years. But having 5 or 6 boards beyond your daily ride??? You know you dont ride them. Im done with the Multi board quiver. I will keep my Osin 4807 for visual affect and on the unlikely chance I get to ride a powder event. I will keep my Rentiger 173 as my back up carver and sell everything but my Coiler.

Really if you dont put at least 5 days a season on your # 2 through... what ever alpine board is it really worth having it.

Sell!!!!

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Madd 158 (10m?) - for steep and/or narrow ice or whenever I want a quick and lively ride. Rode Sunday River last year on a re-freeze day and they had only groomed a strip down the middle of White Heat after the freeze. This board got it done.

Coiler metal 170 (14m) - the one to rule them all. Does almost everything.

Madd 180 (16m? 17m?) - for when it's buff and fast. Speed king.

That's all I need. I could get away with just the Coiler, and if I was only riding like 10 days a year that's all I would have. But even it has its limitations. Sometimes it's not short enough and sometimes it's not long enough.

Schurman or ~tb needs to chime in and explain the quiver mania. (10-15 boards?)

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Last season:

Tinkler 202, for speed and open slopes

Tinkler 180 TNT, daily use

Blackjack 183/21, racing, practicing and daily use

Fatjack 177/23, daily all mountain board for everyhthing from hard slope to pow

Rest of stuff got only handfull days on slope.

I could survive with any of those 3 last ones as only board, but it is more challenge and joy to be able pick board based on slopes and own feelings.

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That's all I need. I could get away with just the Coiler, and if I was only riding like 10 days a year that's all I would have. But even it has its limitations. Sometimes it's not short enough and sometimes it's not long enough.

Schurman or ~tb needs to chime in and explain the quiver mania. (10-15 boards?)

That's the main reason for me, three lengths allmountain, three lengths alpine, three lengths powder, & 1 park board.

Having a flex/length to match conditions is like eating what you are in the mood for, sometimes its oriental, sometimes italian, sometimes mexican, sometimes fried chicken & mashed potatoes, I have a short & long board that rule in mashed potatoes:biggthump

My old crap really is

all but the sims fakie ridden every year

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I ride less than 10 days per year, so 2-3 does it for me: a freecarve board and an all mountain board, depending on conditions (groomed or ungroomed). Maybe a softboot board, but I'm not convinced enough now to go back too softboots; I'll get softer hardboots before that.

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...... will do. As I buy a new board, I always sell one before the new one comes in. My powder board (POGO longboard) is the one I have the longest time in my quiver right now. Don't know how it will be in the future because I am infected (again) by a VIRUS (Cyborg).

- POGO Longboard I use it for powder days.

- Coiler X2 T. for funcarving and crowdy days.

- VIRUS Cyborg T. I have to ride it in the mountains before I can judge, only ridden it in the snowhall

- Tinkler 202 System T. everyday board for every circumstances: hardpack, powder and slushy pists and to go carving with high, stable speeds

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I suspect that if I didn't get 60 - 90 days most seasons, and live less then 20 miles from the chairlift, I'd have fewer boards. Thing is, I actually ride everything I have; if a deck isn't getting used on regular basis or raced on, I sell it.

I generally have 3 go-to boards at any one time, and I choose between them based on conditions, who I am riding with, crowds, and how I'm feeling that day. Generally a fast GS board, an AM, and what I'll call a FC for lack of a better term.

Since I do USASA SL, I keep a SL board around although to this point they've all been acquired used, I think I've been the 3rd (or more) owner on each one. Still haven't found one I like but I have high hopes for the Coiler 160 I picked up from Galen this fall.

I keep the Schtubby 164 and PR 196 around because they are just so unique and so much fun to horse around on. I find myself riding them often enough so that I don't want to sell them.

That's 6 alpine boards total.

Then for softies I keep a dedicated powder deck and a more standard freeride deck around. Surprisingly enough my Steepwater Plow 171 rang up the 2nd most riding days out of my quiver last season... after the Coiler NSR 185 which was first by a mile. Although many of those Steepwater days were spent escorting my daughter around the mountain on her skis.

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last year a minimum of five times each.The Coiler AM182 got the most use,about 25 outings,but it was not always the best choice for certain conditions.The Proton 185 has a distinctly different ride and is a ton of fun on steep groomers and got out about ten times and was borrowed a time or two by another rider.Neither of those boards are great in a few inches of chopped and melted groomed so on to a wider board I went on those days;a 167 Rossi Jeremy Jones Narrow model that is great in powder and no slouch carving ,but not as great in deep pow as my Santa Cruz Sc172 which is too soft to be great in the setup chop and is a slug on hardpack.The 168 Proton was another go-to board that I managed to keep in fantastic shape while riding it in everything from sweet groomed to bumps to jumps and even trees.It will be for sale soon.It was the best carve oriented board that I have ridden in bumps and I took it out several times just to ride bumps since it was more fun than even my go-to board of the last few years...a 161 Extrem all mountain with a carbon top sheet that has become my teaching board since it is worn out and has easily 200 days on it.I also rode a 167 Sims Carve 2 on a few choppy days and on groomers that had a few inches on top.The Sims is forgiving and easy to ride wider board that will be for sale too.I also rode the 157 version of this board and then sold to one the half dozen converts I made last season. And last but not least was an Elan Speedball 163 that was maybe the biggest surprise on a few sunny,'just playin around' days.Kicked butt in the bumps and was a blast to jump and spin with;all on a 18 cm waist.

I've always said that purposely adapting to different conditions on different boards and setups not perfectly suited to those conditions will make a rider better.Then when said rider is able to choose the perfect tool for a given condition or terrain the blending of the skills that results has the effect of higher and more confident level of performance.

Of course,it helps to make a fair chunk of one's living on the mountain while getting over a hundred days.I also buy and sell quite a few boards and try nearly every one so that I can recommend the appropriate setup to each student or friend that decides to get into the sport, but the three biggest reasons I like doing it this way is FUN,FUN and more FUN!

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I only have one board, my Madd 170. It isn't "one board to rule them all" or whatever, I just haven't gotten around to buying an allmountain board yet (anyone have a Prior ATV collecting dust?). I'm hoping to keep just these two for a while before I get a some skis, a swallowtail if I end up living somewhere with a lot of snow, maybe a skwal, a big GS board, a little SL board, maybe some telemark skis, and maybe even a monoski and/or teleboard if i get bored on all of those sticks.:eek: I'm hoping that before I die/am unable to ski anymore I will be an intermediate at every snow sliding discipline.

My brother and I were talking about me buying a second board, and he acts like I'm crazy. He says I need one ride to master all conditions, and instead of spending money on boards, spend money on riding more often. (he's a skier, btw:rolleyes:)

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I have three boards, and only ride one. One is an old Alp that I am giving away to a friend as a starter alpine board. The other is an old kildy that I really just need to throw away. My main board is a Donek FCII, which I ride 100% of the time. I could see buying a pow board at some point, and maybe an SL deck after that, but I can't see ever riding more than three boards enough to keep more.

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Burner 197 for the ultimate carved wide open no people days

Burner 188 for teaching carving and more crowded ripping days.

Don't have to be going quite so fast to bend the board and get it working.

Frontier 185 Powder stick. After 5 core shots it is now going to be my early season late season powder board

Tanker 192. Yet to arrive. Will be the all around pow stick for deep conditions and all mountain too

Canyon 173 Teaching board and for riding switch ( at 30 to 35 degree angles it feels almost duck after riding the burners at 65 to 70)

Burton Air 174(?ish) with stepin soft binders for real low level taking your front in and out all the time teaching.

Burton factory prime 173. This is one of the 19cm waist old broken primes. Great for the bumps for some reason. It just works for there when I am trying to ride more of a zipper line.

I do get out on one of my better condition 173 FPs at least 2-3 times a year too.

And then there is the split board that I have not been on in a couple of years.

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in my previous post the boards that will be moving in this season as others move out.My carving quver will include the afformentioned Coiler AM 182 and 185 Proton neither of which I may ever sell.The additions this season are 168 (my favorite small mountain length)and 158 Volkl RTs.Most importantly is the 182 Tomahawk that I just purchased from bigcanuck.I'm excited as hell to ride the Tomahawk!

I think I could design a "one board" for carving/allmountain based on what I've learned;and sent Able and Eric at Diablo my thoughts about it over the summer,but I am going to learn a bit more first.Really though,I think it would have to be at least two boards for hardboots and one or two for softboots and powder.

Still;if the government raided my quiver and made me get rid of all but one,I'd be ok as long as I could still ride!

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So let me narrow this a bit, you dont live 20 minutes from a mountain and will not be riding 40 or more days a year. I have to say that is at least 80% of the people here

I think it would be cool to do a days ridden per season vs. boards in quiver graph. Now I feel very nerdy...

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I *need* two boards:

* the primary board, which suits 90% of my riding: Donek AX 172, 13m sidecut)

* the beater, for early and late season, when rocks are a concern: CustomCraft 170, 10m sidecut, ~10 years old. This is also my powder board, since it's wide-ish (23cm) and it's the only board I own where the stance is set back.

I *want* a backup for the primary board, in case something bad happens: Donek ARoss FC 180. I don't ride it a lot, but I won't part with it until/unless I get my AX cloned.

I *want* a good board that is very different from my primary, just for the sake of variety: F2 183, 15m. That gets a few half-days each season, when conditions are especially favorable to carving, but I usually switch boards in the afternoon.

I could be very happy with just my primary board, but I'd skip the first and last couple days of each season.

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3 boards would do it for me if I rode all the time: The larger radius carving board (used to be my 173 F2 Speedster, but will soon be replaced by a new 173 Coiler stubby- woo!), the shorter, faster turning board for crowds and gross snow (158 Madd has been my favorite so far but I don't own one... yet), and the softboot tree/powder board (172 tanker).

...but now that I'm getting all jaded and turning into a snow snob I don't need the crowded, gross-snow board since I don't ride those days anyways ;)

I have maybe another 5-10 boards, but they don't belong to a functional quiver; they were all just slowly obsoleted when I got a new favorite board.

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I suspect that most of us could eke out each season with just 2-3 boards...

I could narrow my quiver down to:

172 Coiler AM- my EDC

160 Winterstick Cirque - for slalom, tight tree riding and riding through traffic

164 Oxygen Proton GS- for icy days and riding at night

182 Winterstick Swallowtail - 12" plus powder gun

A rock board - currently a Winterstick 162 severe terrain

That would leave 5-6 boards in my quiver available for "recycling" - primarily Winterstick freeride decks that I'm saving for my daughter for when she gets tall enough and heavy enough to drive them...

But I agree, before I start to drool about a new or NOS board, I seriously consider what will have to be sold in order to justify getting another snowboard- collecting is fun and OK, but I prefer to ride them all.

If I had to winnow them all away and just have one- then the Coiler AM 172 would be THE ONE.

Geo

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I have a few boards but 90% of the time last year I have been runnin both of my coilers T. Am 172 T and RC 180 T

Coilier AM 172 T Goto board

Coiler AM 180 T Goto board on perfect days

170 Madd. Love this board so different. Love the topsheet too !

Sims burner 167 never seen the snow. Don't know why

Donek Axcess 167: fun board to ride but I have the AM now.

Vision 161: it's my rock board or loaner board. Actually it's not that bad to ride.

I also got a Prior Khyber 165 (soft boots) this year for wood playing.

So basically I will be using my 2 coilers most of the time, the Madd once in a while on a special occasion and the khyber when conditions are right. So 3 boards would be more than enough.

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