Xpedite Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I want their pants. Were they Burton? They showed Wescotts win in Torino where he beat a hardbooter but I saw ZERO today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride247 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I want their pants. Were they Burton? They showed Wescotts win in Torino where he beat a hardbooter but I saw ZERO today. I thought i read somewhere that they were some custom made pants by burton for the whole snowboard team, they were made of gore-tex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yes, the Olympic dress from the Americans is made by Burton (and it is Goretex ...). I don´t think you can buy it, but Burton had Goretex jeans in their line one and/or two years ago ... What board is Nate Holland on? It looks rather "classical" shapewise ... not like the other newschool boards. So many Oxess this time ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfusion Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 The US Teams 'denim' pants and flannel jackets were designed by Jake Burton. He chose something he felt was very 'American'. In a recent interview I just read with him he said that he had no plans to make the 'Team issue' clothing available for retail sale. That is not to say that the denim look won't show up in next years product line, but according to Jake himself you will not be able to buy Team USA's clothing in any retail form. And what a great final in Bx! I was on the edge of my seat that race...and the semi-finals as well. Too bad for Nate though. My heart goes out to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Waaa.. that denim look has been around for years.. If you go to Dog Funk or some other jib clothing place you will find tons of it.. have at it... IMHO I thought it made us look like the hoodlems they are... Throw down some ArcTyrex next time!! "RSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfusion Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Personally I think the denim/flannel look looks awesome and very American. And I love the fact that we don't look like every other ski/snowboarder on the hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopetool Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Sorry, I didn't notice pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Het Slopetool... If you're gonna bitch about the Nate Holland stroke turning into a fashion discussion, I offer you this... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/olympics/2010/02/15/trousergate/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopetool Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I loved the article. Nate is a bit like that. Obviously, baggy or tight pants will not win someone a SBX. Thank you, Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Obviously, baggy or tight pants will not win someone a SBX. What?! Are you... being facetious? Or did you just miss the entire point of that article? Tight pants will win someone a SBX, all other things being equal. A speed suit will make you faster on the course, period. The point is that Holland wants boarders to wear baggy pants in spite of this. greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Arctyrex??? I think anyone wearing that looks like some gay stuck up hippie yuppie (combo)skier form boulder (no offense)I didnt think they US uni was great, but if i had to choose between that and the yuppiform.... what? because it's actually decent outerwear? that's the biggest issue with most snowboards specific brands right now they spend more time looking for weave that look like wool or denim than they do for performance. so, most of the offerings of major snowboard specific brands are over priced garbage. I hate it but that's the way it is, all the brands that you're safe pulling just about anything they make off the rack to put through real all weather use probably all make your yuppie qualification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 What?! Are you... being facetious? Or did you just miss the entire point of that article?Tight pants will win someone a SBX, all other things being equal. A speed suit will make you faster on the course, period. The point is that Holland wants boarders to wear baggy pants in spite of this. greg right, because he's got the park rat superiority complex the exact opposite of what most people here have. IMO, anyone that wants to be anti-progression in their said sport is probably a dick unless it's a sport that's based on specific rules like football or badminton or some other lame point game. kinda sounded to me like he was trying to set up a excuse for doing badly but if he did well he could say he's core. bitch move if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 You have the same thing in downhill bike racing. Fortunately, speed suits are illegal per rules, and I wouldn't mind seeing something similar for boardercross. It's not just a fashion thing. Speedsuits are an extra expense, are a strictly racing item, and aren't exactly comfortable; this is before you add in the fact they just don't look good. The problem is that once someone starts wearing them, the added edge will force other competators to start wearing them as well. If you can keep that from happening, like we have in downhill, then you can be more comfortable, warmer, and have a little extra in your pocket, and the racing will still be on a level field. Frankly, I think "progressing" the sport by going to speedsuits sucks. Progress the sports by developing boards, bindings, boots, and technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Arctyrex??? I think anyone wearing that looks like some gay stuck up hippie yuppie (combo)skier form boulder (no offense)I didnt think they US uni was great, but if i had to choose between that and the yuppiform.... you need to get out of Boulder more. Arcteryx makes good ****. I bet you don't wear North Face or Patagonia for the same reason. Too waterproof, functional and.....well you get the idea. I loved the article. Nate is a bit like that. Obviously, baggy or tight pants will not win someone a SBX. Thank you, Rob. baggy or tight alone won't get you to the Olympics but I guarantee you it will make a difference if both riders are riding at the same level. I have poked myself into a speed suit and the difference is astounding in the acceleration, especially in the flatter and fastest parts of a race course. While the Canucks aren't in skin tight, there is bound to be some difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMU Alpine Boarder Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 So wait... Riders can put $1500 - $1800 into a board, apply $300 in wax for a single race (which is applied by a wax tech, NOT the rider), get custom boots/bindings, etc. etc. but they are gonna complain about someone making a fundamental and obvious improvement to their outerwear I'm sorry, but that is just being arrogant and/or retarded... Eliminating aero drag is a fundamental point of ALL RACING... Cycling, skiing, sliding sports, skating, etc... In a sport where advancing can be decided by an inch or two, why not give every advantage you can get? If you want freestyle, go over and start doing spins and butters in the park... Over there, your outerwear has little effect on your performance... Here, you are obviously trying to gain every tenth of a second you can... With the amount of R&D that goes into their gear, I think that this is totally hypocritical... I wonder what would happen if someone showed up with a 2 piece slalom ski suit? Per the rule that was posted somewhere here on Bomber, this would be legal since it's 2 piece... Yea, it would piss someone off, but too bad... There is one goal here and that is to make it to the bottom of the mountain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 arcteryx/north face/patgonia can be had for cheap if you know where to look. outlet/summer/weird color... If the proper outerwear make me able to enjoy the precious slope day then it's worth it in my book. -- David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 So wait... If it's generally agreed upon not to do it, then there's no issue with it. Even if it's not an official rule, if you think about it, it's no more arbitrary than saying "you have to use a snowboard instead of skis" since skis are generally faster down a course? Additionally, what's to be gained by going to skin suites? If everyone does it, then the times drop equally across the board, and you're right back to where you started, except now you're wearing a skin tight racing suite. As I said before, aero clothing is illegal in downhill racing, and everyone is quite happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 As I said before, aero clothing is illegal in downhill racing, and everyone is quite happy with it. Where is this? Or do you mean something else besides speed suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Where is this? Or do you mean something else besides speed suits? Downhill bicycle racing. Sorry, I should have been clearer, but I was referring to my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I wonder what would happen if someone showed up with a 2 piece slalom ski suit? Per the rule that was posted somewhere here on Bomber, this would be legal since it's 2 piece... Yea, it would piss someone off, but too bad... There is one goal here and that is to make it to the bottom of the mountain... If it's generally agreed upon not to do it, then there's no issue with it. Even if it's not an official rule, if you think about it, it's no more arbitrary than saying "you have to use a snowboard instead of skis" since skis are generally faster down a course? Additionally, what's to be gained by going to skin suites? If everyone does it, then the times drop equally across the board, and you're right back to where you started, except now you're wearing a skin tight racing suite. . It is an official rule - and a two-piece skin tight suit would not be allowed. 2705.6 Competition Clothing.SBX competition suits must be two piece – pants and separate top. Form fitting speed or downhill suites are not permitted. Non protruding body protection and padding is recommended. Protective equipment i.e. back protection must be worn on the body. No straps, fastening devices or other methods can be used to tighten the suit material closer to the body So Holland's protest may have been valid...but I agree with BobDea that it was kinda bitchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 If it's generally agreed upon not to do it, then there's no issue with it. Even if it's not an official rule, if you think about it, it's no more arbitrary than saying "you have to use a snowboard instead of skis" since skis are generally faster down a course? Additionally, what's to be gained by going to skin suites? If everyone does it, then the times drop equally across the board, and you're right back to where you started, except now you're wearing a skin tight racing suite. Good point, but do they have a rule for how baggy your clothing has to be? Because I'd be wearing the tightest threads I could. Speed suits would eliminate any clothing bagginess argument/judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveBomber Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 well look at their thighs at least for the US team, it was pretty much form fitting.... actually they almost look like a pair of bell bottoms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopetool Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I thought about what I wrote and I was being a little sarcastic. Obviously, baggy or tight pants will not win someone a SBX Those last two Olympic finals that Wescott were in were so close at the end, reduced air drag on the pants could actually make a difference. Speed suits may be a little overkill for SBX. Theres got to be some middle ground there and not make the pants and top too baggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Those last two Olympic finals that Wescott were in were so close at the end, reduced air drag on the pants could actually make a difference. That's the thing though, if neither of them have it, then it makes no difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Speed suits are an extra expense, are a strictly racing item, and aren't exactly comfortable; this is before you add in the fact they just don't look good. Speed suits are not terribly expensive, and provide a pretty good bang for the buck. I'm sure that for some would-be future champions, eating regularly might be considered an extra expense. Speed suits are widely used in daily training by skiers for Slalom and GS, as well as downhill and superG. Speed suits are available from a number of manufacturers, so you can certainly find one tailored to your physique. While watching the women's 15k freestyle xc race the other day, just prior to the BX, I found myself thinking; "These women are fast, athletic, skilled, and the movement over snow is really intricate and a joy to behold. The only thing missing is a flannel Pajama top, or maybe some distressed denim..." Oh,wait a second, speed suits are associated with various forms of, GASP, skiing. The Establishment. Can't have that... If I am not mistaken, in the early days of BX, speed suits were ok. (This was before the moto-cross look went big). Similarly, speed suits were common on the early DH bike circuit as well. No doubt changes were made in the name of public image. Speed suits have a way of making non-athletes look non-athletic, and that is hardly inclusive. If everyone does it, then the times drop equally across the board, and you're right back to where you started Not so fast, if you will pardon the obvious pun. While a speed suit reduces drag, this reduction in drag can have the unintended consequence of magnifying mistakes. So, in a way, speed suits can make a given course even more challenging. Frankly, I think "progressing" the sport by going to speedsuits sucks. Progress the sports by developing boards, bindings, boots, and technique. Is it progress when BX and such are dominated by a one or two manufacturers? Isn't that just a bit NASCAResque? It seems that competitive skiing has progressed far more than competitive snowboarding in the past 20 years. Stuffy image notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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