barryj Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Not sure how I crashed but took a header.....more like a WWF Piledriver to my shoulder yesterday....... arm was not outstretched or in front of me. Head and shoulder took full brunt.......head fine.... shoulder, not so much Can't raise my arm in front or to the side.......forearm and wrist are aok No pain or ache with injured side.....arm/shoulder just won't work! Went for xray same day.....but no results as of yet. Did the whole RICE scenario + ibuprofen. No issues or pain sleeping or sleeping on my arm last night. A little bit more range of motion today than yesterday. Can reach behind my back and pull arm/wrist away from back. Can pick up a gallon of milk with forearm and carry it with arm extended to side, no problem So it's not a broken bone, it's not a dislocation, it doesn't seem like a rotator cuff ?? So, what do the Sages say?? Edited October 25, 2019 by barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kirk Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sorry to hear of your injury. Pinched nerve? dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwjob1 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Second pinched nerve. Probably in the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 My vote goes to AC separation. I think @SunSurfer will know. @barryj, may I ask how you did the E of RICE? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) The lack of radiating pain or altered sensation argues against a squeezed nerve. The inability to move the shoulder while the rest of the arm works also makes nerve injury less likely. My guess is a muscle tendon rupture in one or more muscles around the shoulder. The symptoms are significant enough to need formal assessment by an orthopaedic surgeon to really determine what works and what doesn't. Only then will the differential diagnosis list become clear. There may well be an MRI in your future to determine the extent of soft tissue injury, followed by an operation. Edited January 12, 2019 by SunSurfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 6 hours ago, SunSurfer said: The lack of radiating pain or altered sensation argues against a squeezed nerve. The inability to move the shoulder while the rest of the arm works also makes nerve injury less likely. My guess is a muscle tendon rupture in one or more muscles around the shoulder. The symptoms are significant enough to need formal assessment by an orthopaedic surgeon to really determine what works and what doesn't. Only then will the differential diagnosis list become clear. There may well be an MRI in your future to determine the extent of soft tissue injury, followed by an operation. Barryj that's probably not what you wanted to hear ! How about a neck brace and a sling and off you go powder day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Chin up baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 hours ago, daveo said: may I ask how you did the E of RICE? Hmmm.....I thought "E" was for large doses of the drug Ecstasy Thanks for the replies guys. Still waiting on xray results....but I'm betting it will be inconclusive and Ill get a referral to the Orthopod and an MRI. Today I can raise my arm (straight and bent) to the side almost shoulder level....still no movement forward....... but I Can Still Ride!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Torn labrum at the minimum. See a shoulder specialist if you can. If whomever you see doesn't physically manipulate your shoulder in the initial exam go see someone else. A public thank you to Dr. Vivek Agrawal for his care. (I was lucky his practice was in Indianapolis at the time.) https://www.achssurgeons.com/provider/vivek-agrawal-md Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eboot Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sorry to hear this Barry Wishing you a quick and solid recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Good luck man! Talk to an expert/doctor and get their opinion. Motion is lotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'm Back! Well, Sort of.......... Still don't have full mobility in left arm...no pain but still can't reach left or scratch anything higher than my nose Orthro appointment is (finally!) tomorrow. Hopefully will finally know the full extent then..... ....... but gave the arm almost 2 weeks rest/recovery and went out today with the mindset if it's torn I can't make it any worse by riding on it! So took my most forgiving board, the Swoard Dual 168 and went to Bretton Woods which is Way relaxed and Groomed to the Hilt riding on some long Blues! All went well, and after an initial couple of "can I still ride this thing or not!" runs I could actually get on the gas a little bit and layed some toe side carves out....was cautious on the left arm/heel side turns and rounded those ....but overall a highly successful day....only lasted 5 or 6 runs (in the 10 degree weather) before I could tell my arm/shoulder was saying...What the Hell is going on! So not a bad comeback for a "One Armed Paper Hanger", if I say so my self! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Expect to see you bustin' out those Saturday Night Fever dance moves again soon Barry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 barryj nice pics ! I especially like the view of the guns and hydrants. Home of the Brave and Land of the Free. On our little bump the only thing that isn't padded all to hell is the chairs on the lift. Everything is netted and guarded like your riding in a hamster cage. Nice to see a wide open run where the trenches are the only real hazard you need to worry about ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 After waiting 2 weeks and having spent half a day seeing my PCP and getting xrays last week, the latest update after today's Orthopod appointment is, Wait For It........... "Yes Your Shoulder Has a Problem and You Need An MRI" Gee Mr. Wizard......ya think! ...and to top that off.....it will be another week before I can have the MRI done. Ugh! This is me - This is my shoulder on drugs - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekempmeister Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 do you think that there was trauma to the scalene muscles that might be contributing to your issues ? i have had some very intense referred pain and a marked lack of mobility in the shoulder/arm that was attributable to those things. very tricky muscles, particularly behind (posterior) the clavicle. a very sensitive and potentially problematic area to manipulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, davekempmeister said: do you think that there was trauma Yes, to Rotator Cuff muscle.......not sure which one as of yet! but "Probably Tore It" is the Expert Medical Opinion at the moment. I really got no pain except when I try to lift it up or out to the side....only got about 40-50% mobility in those two directions still ...... But I Can Still Ride!! ....well, at least up until the surgery happens.....which at the pace my medical services are going I got a better chance I'll die of old age first! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Supraspinatus? Which one of your boards do I win if I'm right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 15 hours ago, bigwavedave said: Supraspinatus? Which one of your boards do I win if I'm right? Ha! Could be, could be! .......but if your wrong I get your Thirst SF162!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 hours ago, barryj said: Ha! Could be, could be! .......but if your wrong I get your Thirst SF162!! Okay, I'm out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Sorry @barryj that Injection for the MRI is NOT fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Oh I thought the radiotracers can be swallowed. Maybe not for the shoulder then? I drank some PLUTONIUM (I'm sure it wasn't), when I had a few different injuries in a previous life as a fit athlete and not a morbidly obese sedentary slob like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Gadolinium? Unless your MRI @daveo was organised by the GRU. The discomfort of the the IV access being put in depends very much on the skills of the person doing the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, SunSurfer said: Gadolinium? Unless your MRI @daveo was organised by the GRU. The discomfort of the the IV access being put in depends very much on the skills of the person doing the task. Erm, not sure. It may have been a CT scan? It's not my area of expertise so I'm not sure, but I definitely was drinking radioactive stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvin' Marvin Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, daveo said: Erm, not sure. It may have been a CT scan? It's not my area of expertise so I'm not sure, but I definitely was drinking radioactive stuff Did they put you in a bangy tube for a while or the spinny donut for a jif? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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