daveo Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, jl1 said: Kessler 168 w/TD3's in black-I purchased this last season but I had a shoulder injury which took me out for the season so I never had a chance to ride it. I am recovering from a tib/fib fracture and it looks like I am out for another season so I just get to look at it all winter AGAIN! I can not wait for a HEALTHY new year. Honestly you're not missing out on anything. That's literally the worst board ever. Look, I'll sacrifice myself and take it off your hands (for when mine dies ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, jl1 said: Kessler 168 w/TD3's in black-I purchased this last season but I had a shoulder injury which took me out for the season so I never had a chance to ride it. I am recovering from a tib/fib fracture and it looks like I am out for another season so I just get to look at it all winter AGAIN! I can not wait for a HEALTHY new year. Wow, that sucks. Best of luck for a complete recovery! Stay on track with your physical therapy and you'll come back stronger next year. Off topic: Most PT programs are pretty conservative - aimed at couch potatoes. The doctors at Barbellmedicine.com propose more aggressive returns to activity after any injury. Here's an article and a podcast with some relation to that: Article: https://www.barbellmedicine.com/catastrophizing/ Podcast: https://soundcloud.com/user-344313169/qa-part-2-of-4-injuries-w-special-guest-derek-miles-dpt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, daveo said: take it off your hands (for when mine dies ). No.....I'm closer! I'll even Drive Up and take it off your hands (for when my K168 dies ) Really, you don't won't that board staring at ya all winter long! I promise I won't abuse it... too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 Been a while since I have been here... Built myself a new board, very happy with the result Titanal/ carbon laminate, maple core, 160 eff. edge, 14m radius. Can't wait to take it to the snow! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl1 Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 hours ago, daveo said: Honestly you're not missing out on anything. That's literally the worst board ever. Look, I'll sacrifice myself and take it off your hands (for when mine dies ). 3 hours ago, barryj said: No.....I'm closer! I'll even Drive Up and take it off your hands (for when my K168 dies ) Really, you don't won't that board staring at ya all winter long! I promise I won't abuse it... too much! Thanks for the offer guys by I think I will pass-Just looking at it makes me work a little harder during my PT 4 hours ago, Corey said: Wow, that sucks. Best of luck for a complete recovery! Stay on track with your physical therapy and you'll come back stronger next year. Off topic: Most PT programs are pretty conservative - aimed at couch potatoes. The doctors at Barbellmedicine.com propose more aggressive returns to activity after any injury. Here's an article and a podcast with some relation to that: Article: https://www.barbellmedicine.com/catastrophizing/ Podcast: https://soundcloud.com/user-344313169/qa-part-2-of-4-injuries-w-special-guest-derek-miles-dpt Thanks Corey-You are 100% correct-Where I have to go for PT they just wanted to get me walking-It looks like the rest is up to me to get "better,stronger, faster than before". And I am working hard at it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, TimW said: Been a while since I have been here... Built myself a new board, very happy with the result Titanal/ carbon laminate, maple core, 160 eff. edge, 14m radius. Can't wait to take it to the snow! That’s awesome, Tim, welcome back! What is it overall, 170? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, TimW said: Built myself a new board, very happy with the result Titanal/ carbon laminate, maple core, 160 eff. edge, 14m radius. Can't wait to take it to the snow! That's pretty cool. Not many folks are pressing their own boards. Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 9:22 AM, daveo said: Care to do a small comparo? All 3 are great boards. The Proteus 175 was a great balance of lively and damp, definitely an energetic board. The 12m single radius sidecut (actually parabolic) was turny and liked to finish turns. I wouldn't have sold it so soon but there was a scare that Bruce was going to retire so I wanted to get one last Coiler. I got the Nirvana Energy 174, 12-14m. Of the 3 boards this was the most laid back and "comfy", but it could still bring the excitement and air time between carves. The dual radius VSR I felt had a smaller sweet spot, and protested if I wasn't in it. On the other hand it was the most willing to let turns run long if desired. This custom Kessler 175 (10-14m) is the stiffest and most energetic of the three. It's stiffer than my stock 168 and 180, and launches me out of carves. A thrill ride for freecarving, it is indeed a big brother of the 168. Unlike Kessler race boards, it really likes to finish a turn. There is something special about the KST sidecut. Very smooth, does not reveal itself as a VSR, it just works. Big sweet spot, great edge hold. Not cheap, but glad I treated myself. I'll have it until I grind through the base. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack M said: All 3 are great boards. The Proteus 175 was a great balance of lively and damp, definitely an energetic board. The 12m single radius sidecut (actually parabolic) was turny and liked to finish turns. I wouldn't have sold it so soon but there was a scare that Bruce was going to retire so I wanted to get one last Coiler. I got the Nirvana Energy 174, 12-14m. Of the 3 boards this was the most laid back and "comfy", but it could still bring the excitement and air time between carves. The dual radius VSR I felt had a smaller sweet spot, and protested if I wasn't in it. On the other hand it was the most willing to let turns run long if desired. This custom Kessler 175 (10-14m) is the stiffest and most energetic of the three. It's stiffer than my stock 168 and 180, and launches me out of carves. A thrill ride for freecarving, it is indeed a big brother of the 168. Unlike Kessler race boards, it really likes to finish a turn. There is something special about the KST sidecut. Very smooth, does not reveal itself as a VSR, it just works. Big sweet spot, great edge hold. Not cheap, but glad I treated myself. I'll have it until I grind through the base. Poor guy. You sound distraught. Look, if you can't find happiness in any of your boards, I'll gladly lend you one of mine. ... Just give me that Kessler. Jokes aside. Sounds great. Congrats. Edited December 16, 2018 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 163...... 27.5 waist! NO MORE DRAG! This this is pure sex, might be the tanker killer in bigger sizes, we will see! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 10:40 PM, Jack M said: Unlike Kessler race boards, it really likes to finish a turn. There is something special about the KST sidecut. Very smooth, does not reveal itself as a VSR, it just works. Big sweet spot, great edge hold. Not cheap, but glad I treated myself. I'll have it until I grind through the base. Yeah, still it sounds there’s something a little different to kessler geometry. Way back rode a few and still own one, they are just different. Some of Palmer softboot boards had that Kessler magic in ‘em too. Sounding like they STILL have some special sauce not found elsewhere. Can anyone explain what he does different? I know I like it but there’s never been much of explanation that I’ve seen. Other than the Palm said it feels like flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Couldn't really tell much difference between my Kessler 168 and SG Full Carve 170, other than it turns quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 But I think that is more attest to just how good the SG actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Has any one comparision between KST and same size Oxcess? I found K180 and Ox178 very similar ones. And yes SG is good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 1:01 AM, Jack M said: That’s awesome, Tim, welcome back! What is it overall, 170? Its 173. It's the same eff. edge as boards I built earlier, but with a straight tail and short nose the overall length reduced by about 5 cm. Great to see a lot of familiar names are still here! 5 hours ago, bobdea said: 163...... 27.5 waist! NO MORE DRAG! This this is pure sex, might be the tanker killer in bigger sizes, we will see! That looks great! and huge! and I was planning on getting something in the same width, but about 180 long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, TimW said: Its 173. It's the same eff. edge as boards I built earlier, but with a straight tail and short nose the overall length reduced by about 5 cm. Great to see a lot of familiar names are still here! That looks great! and huge! and I was planning on getting something in the same width, but about 180 long... This one is my kid chasing utility stick, next one will be more what I tend to like which is close to 180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) So one of my best mates turned up with this comedy chirstmas gift for me his brothers hardboot setup from around early 2000s if i had to guess.... Its now pretty much mines so off came the franken vans on went a pair of rental ski boots for a couple of comedy runs, some how i didnt fall Edited December 18, 2018 by scottishsurfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 I've a pair of those (SIMS?) branded bindings somewhere. I thought they were 1996 vintage, something like that. Mine are in way better nick if you actually like the things. They were pretty solid, from what I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 I've no idea of the bindings make to be honest there in ok condition just dirty apparently the last time it was used was dry slope so it's not exactly clean. This morning's adventure was actually my first ever experience riding in hardboots . Going to play with the stance a bit and try again tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, scottishsurfer said: I've no idea of the bindings make to be honest there in ok condition just dirty apparently the last time it was used was dry slope so it's not exactly clean. This morning's adventure was actually my first ever experience riding in hardboots . Going to play with the stance a bit and try again tomorrow. Well, at least you're trying the pinnacle of futuristic wizardry and modern day technology!!! Many years ago I picked up a Wild Duck from an Opportunity Store and a pair of Raichle AT boots. Never rode it and the boots were about size five billion. I then found out that Wild Duck was designed by the same people or one of the people who design the current model of Swoards! Edited December 19, 2018 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, daveo said: Well, at least you're trying the pinnacle of futuristic wizardry and modern day technology!!! Many years ago I picked up a Wild Duck from an Opportunity Store and a pair of Raichle AT boots. Never rode it. I then found out that they were designed by the same people or one of the people who design the current model of Swoards! lol that i wouldnt have expected either, changing the angles on the bindings just noticed there printed with made in switzerland..... The stance is super super narrow i have a feeling its for someone much smaller in height than me or stances back when this was made were just smaller in general this was under the binding Edited December 19, 2018 by scottishsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 In all seriousness though, if you put the same words on a new board, it would be considered current tech... Wood Core, Fiberglass Sandwich, Torsion Box, Carbon, Kevlar, Ceramic, P-Tex....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haus Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Picked up my, as Bobdea calls it "kid chasing stick" today. Complete with coiler graffiti done by my 12yr old son. He is ecstatic for it. Did a few laps with Bruce today too, he makes it look so easy, like he is not even trying... Edited December 19, 2018 by Haus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, daveo said: In all seriousness though, if you put the same words on a new board, it would be considered current tech... Wood Core, Fiberglass Sandwich, Torsion Box, Carbon, Kevlar, Ceramic, P-Tex....... yeah i noticed sharpening it there is titanal or some sort of aluminium alloy under the center 1/3 of the top sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, Haus said: Picked up my, as Bobdea calls it "kid chasing stick" today. Complete with coiler graffiti done by my 12yr old son. He is ecstatic for it. Did a few laps with Bruce today too, he makes it look so easy, like he is not even trying... Wait what? Are you sure your son isn't a fully qualified graffiti artist with many years of experience? Because it sure looks like that. I reckon Coiler or Donek would gladly offer his designs as stock ones. Looks awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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