Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 "The new T425 is an all new boot, sitting above the T700 in the lineup." ; Yeah, just like a '95 Mustang was 'All NEW', sitting on a Fairmont frame and using a truck motor from the 80's... Looks the part, but it's parts ain't so new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 No really, it is. The shell is a new shape both in fit and cosmetics. I compared them in person. I mean yeah, it's still a 3 piece boot with buckles and the dumb forward lean selector, so there's no quantum leap in technology, but I have to assume they made new molds. You can see some of the differences for yourself in the BOL store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I don't see a new shell, at least not from the pics. The fit difference could easily be from the liner. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I don't see a new shell, at least not from the pics. The fit difference could easily be from the liner. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk try looking on something other than a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I just looked on a big screen. All I see is different buckles and addition of the power strap. There also might be an insert in the hole behind the top buckle on 425 that other ones might not have. But nothing really that would indicate a new mold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 +1. Can you give us a pointer or two, Jack? Or are the differences just not noticeable from pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted May 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 The point of the 425 (Pro) was to make a stiffer shell for racers. They had a hard time coming up with the right plastic mixture. No new molds ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack M Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Ok, so it looks like the 425 is the same mold as the old 325, just stiffer. But it is certainly different than the 700 as you can see above. The 325 was never on my radar before, so the 425 looked all new to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Wrong comparison. The 700 is obviously not from the same mold as the 425. Need to compare the 425 to the 325. These DO look like they are from the same mold: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Wrong comparison. The 700 is obviously not from the same mold as the 425. Need to compare the 425 to the 325. These DO look like they are from the same mold: Yeah I just said that. BlueB seemed to be saying he couldn't see a difference between the 425 and 700. Thank god I now have an upgrade path that doesn't involve the 700's ridiculous self-destructing ankle rivets/bolts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yeah I just said that. BlueB seemed to be saying he couldn't see a difference between the 425 and 700. Thank god I now have an upgrade path that doesn't involve the 700's ridiculous self-destructing ankle rivets/bolts. yup, just saw that. wish there was a duh button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 When I was in Argentina, ten years ago, these Falcons were everywhere, many looking like they were fresh of the New Car lot I think Ford started making these there in '62, and didn't stop until the mid-90's [? not sure when they were discontinued?] . But the 425-styled boot shell was first on my feet 22 years ago, and I've gone through 6 pairs in various forms since. It would be interesting (if I still had them) to compare the new 425 to my old Nagano Race version, but those were 18 years back. Now, I'm certain of this, though. Evolution is a good thing, up until it leads to a dead-end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Oh. I didn't expect anyone to not be aware of a shell shape that has been around since I got my first pair of hardboots. Well, that clears things up, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Oh. I didn't expect anyone to not be aware of a shell shape that has been around since I got my first pair of hardboots. Well, that clears things up, then. As an intermediate boot, I never really looked at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Day Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Yeah I just said that. BlueB seemed to be saying he couldn't see a difference between the 425 and 700. Thank god I now have an upgrade path that doesn't involve the 700's ridiculous self-destructing ankle rivets/bolts. Careful Jack, my experience with the Track325(my old SB323 boots) ankle pivots were that they self destructed far worse/easier than my AF 600/Suzuka/Track700 ankle pivots! Granted, I have not ridden the newer Track225/325/425, so perhaps they have remedied the problem. Also keep in mind that you are probably a more aggressive rider than me and get to ride more too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hmm, well, hopefully they have addressed the issue since the SB323. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Check this out: https://www.facebook.com/AmmannSnowboardGear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Granted, I have not ridden the newer Track225/325/425, so perhaps they have remedied the problem. Unfortunately, they did not. In fact, I would say the quality of the metal and plastic ankle rivet (in both SB and AF series) has degraded over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Check this out: https://www.facebook.com/AmmannSnowboardGear That's pretty cool. If they can recreate the magic pixie dust that's in the Northwave boots that has people spending many thousands of dollars for them, they'll pay for the molds and design time pretty fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sintered Man Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I'd be willing to bet a hazelwood that the same people who have been buying the NOS Northwaves, are the ones who will be redesigning these boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainSlope Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I'd be willing to bet a hazelwood that the same people who have been buying the NOS Northwaves, are the ones who will be redesigning these boots. No. Those guys are from Italy. We are from Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted July 17, 2016 Report Share Posted July 17, 2016 I'd be willing to bet a hazelwood that the same people who have been buying the NOS Northwaves, are the ones who will be redesigning these boots. No. Those guys are from Italy. We are from Switzerland So, who gets the Hazelwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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