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Freecarver Series in a 9scr and a 6scr boards! I'm gonna have to demo them!! Of course with Binders just to mess with his mind!, he's a Tahoe local and see him on the hill often when he's not off sleping up some god forsaken vertical bowling alley!

Thank God! It took all my strength to resist my UPM addiction!!!!

Ha! It seems I'm the last holdout of all things UPM these days. I love my K168 UPM +AF Plate, Rev 163 UPM + F Plate and Angrry 160 UPM + F Plate........ So I wouldn't count on it Kneel!

True that Jack! It would mellow out the MK buzz/ride. Wonder why nobody's tried?? But we both know 4x4 Plate applications don't even come close to the performance of a UPM plate application and Sean confirms this also! Not to mention the 4x4 stack height using TD3 SW SI's is vertigo inducing imo!

Yep, what tha Man says, it's proprietary. Mine is a MK that's 20w like Corey's variant.... Plus UPM inserts! UPM Baby! Sean and I discussed the dreaded MK Buzz/vibration and besides the fact it took me quite a bit of persuading...(aka pestering the Hell out of him!) to build a MK Variant with UPM......Sean liked my thinking of this creation as not only an Ice slayer with neck snaping turns, but putting on a Donek F Plate which as a flex modifier will nullify the notorious MK Buzz while saving impact on the knees which will extend the MK daily riding time! Time will tell if my hypothesis was correct........

Damn straight it's going to be an Ice Slayer!

Looky, looky what Uncle Sean left on my doorstep! This is a MK Mutant~ where it differs is the 20w and UPM inserts for a Donek UPM F Plate. And of course being a MK Mutant/Variant it cannot have the MK topsheet...so I had them run RGB Glossy World Rally Blue and Gold. The photo doesn't come close to depicting it's metallic/high gloss surface! As I'm on the AIL until March I get to stare at it (for inspiration/motivation to get thru the next surgery and the ensuing PT) and dream what a neck snapping ride this is going to be! When I get it all mounted up with the UPM F plate and TD3 SW SI+ BP lower assembly I'll add a photo of it in my lineup in the "23/24 Seasonal Quiver" post.

Sorry Jianan, TJ beat ya to it.......

Yes....but I'm out of town this week.

$$ Price would help.................

UPM? Hmm.....looks like UPM but what UPM plate uses the center hole inserts that are on the board??

My whole day's demeanor depends on An Early Start! If I'm going to Heavenly or Northstar to get a primo parking spot (aka- 5 minutes from the lift!) I gotta be up at 5:30am, driving by 6am parked by 6:30 and sitting in Starbucks by 7am. A hot chocolate and classic oatmeal breakfast while relaxing until 8am and then go stand in line for the doors to open or lift to start spinning by 8:30. If I get behind schedule even 15 minutes it crowds and chaos the whole day!!

⁰For sale one 2nd board/Lower assemblies kits. Blue/Medium E ring and 3 degree cant disks. $75 + shipping per set. 4 screws for the center disk included per set. 1 Set SOLD - 1 Set Still Available Also a single 3 degree cant disk: SOLD And a set of: black/medium E rings: $25 Shipped And a set of Grey/hard E rings: $25 shipped

Yea...don't go with the 4x4 UPM mount....just deadens the purpose and ride of the Plate and the stack height and weight sucks. Yes, UPM is dead. Probably 5 years now. Allflex/Ironrock is the latest/greatest which reads $$$ Unless your racing at the World Cup/Olympic level UPM is still just as good... imo. Here's a link when I asked the same question:

J run your own test if ya don't believe me - It Sucks!...........just don't blame me if you get hurt! Well not specifically that board but as I am one of the last UPM hold outs and Adjunct UPM Plate Master it's just a huge to the UPM board + UPM Plate systems! All my hard charging carving rides are UPM boards+ UPM plates. Kessler 168 + UPM, Donek Rev 163 + UPM, Coiler Angrry 160 + UPM Bruce was reluctant to make a new Angrry with UPM but I signed my life away that if I snap it I can't cry foul. The Angrry is a 20w and I'm running TD3 SW SI's 3/6 cant disks on BP lowers which sit on a Donek F Plate. The K168 (Is a Wow ride by itself!) was running on a Donek AF plate because of the length and BP lowers and board+ plate is Now OMG!! Well if you sweet talk Sean (or pester the Hell out of him like I did!) he will make you a new UPM F Plate! I got a brand spanking new UPM F Plate just last season. He said he had enough leftover parts to create at least one more! Better Go Get it! Thank you..... and congrats to you on your Swallow62 purchase! This is my 3rd Moss PQ60 and if I was told I could only have/ride One Board In My Quiver this would be it! It loves 3ft of Pow and it Loves to Carve on the groomers....all on the same run! No other board can do both so well with such mixed conditions on the same run! It's a renaissance design and masterpiece of handmade craftmanship! I run it with TD3 SW SI's 3/3 cant disks with softer Deeluxe 325 boots and liners and no BTS. I really save it for pow days....which was the majority last year here in Tahoe!! Being a Cali boy I'm sure you know the Sports Hub here in Truckee has The Entire Moss lineup in there demo fleet!!! I imagine you acquired your SW62 from them....yes? Unfortunately I'm on the AIL sidelines for the first few months this season but hope to back at it in March. Hit me up for a Moss play date if your riding brings you up to Tahoe! Cheers!

I tried Gecko/Virus isolator plates for the same reason. Wasn't much of a difference imo. Actually in retrospect my problem might of been I tried the Geckos under a standard TD3. (it was terrible!)......not BP version! But a UPM Plate on a board with UPM inserts (not the 4x4 to UPM adapter!). makes my knees/legs last all day!

I tried that. That's a No Go! It was damn near unridable.....and the weight, Ugh!

In trying to readjust my underhang bindings on my wider boards I (old guy with a brain injury ) need a refresher on setting up my TD'3s from the board up......somethings not right, as I'm coming up with crazy 30/55 angles by just turning the base plates out to almost meet the "fuego box" ??

Ha! Yea Jack, your not the first to pen that!...that's been my moniker for quite awhile here! Historically I had set all my boards at the same angles....it's just what worked, or has worked for me but with this upcoming ankle surgery for a torn left outside tendon, well now I feel I have to try to learn to ride with the angles on the wider boards set out to the edge. This debate has gone on for quite awhile here and I had, of course tried the Fuego box method to move my angles but riding those decreased angles just felt too awkward to change at the time. But now, well I feel I have to adapt...... because I have to decrease the amount of torque/pressure on my post surgery weak ankles and hamstrings! Yes.....I'm still the UPM Plate Master and Yes I still have a Donek AF (or two ). The AF was/is the Bomb on my K168!! ......... but the F plates are OMG Wow! on the shorter (Rev and Angrry) boards .......which is just how the Master, Sean designed their application!

Thank God it's finally October! I'm on the AIL sidelines until (hopefully only!) March if all goes well with PT but here's my quiver for this upcoming season. My arsenal has slimmed down from 5 to 3 boards this season. 1- Swoard Dual II 168 - my everyday, all conditions work board, EC board 2- Coiler Angrry 160 XXT + Donek UPM F Plate - Hard Charging Carving Machine 3- Moss PQ60 - It will ride/carve everything but I save it just for Pow days If I had to be limited to only one board, this would be it! 4- And to provide me inspiration while on the AIL sidelines I got another turny little bandit in the oven at Donek that Sean promises I will see in early Dec. that will round out the arsenal! I'll hang it on the wall for motivation until the day I can get out and ride it! What's Your Lineup??

Thanks Scully. It's just the price of a dangerous over crowded sport these days imo. I had never had any ski/boarding incident to speak of the last couple of decades before this......so I was overdue I guess! I was ready and begrudgingly willing to give up this whole season to get my turn back and be stronger for next season but the Docs. are saying I could/should be able to get back on the hill late March! Now I'm stoked!! I hear ya.......but I'm sure PT will address it if it shows up and you should be good to go for this season!!

Bad: More Surgery!.................Left Ankle Surgery for complete tear of outside tendon, which was expected. Good: Doc says if my Hamstring/Conjoined Tendon surgery PT recovery doesn't hold me back, I could be back on the hill four months after this ankle surgery and PT!! Hopefully surgery can happen by Nov. 1....so I could give the Bunny Hill a go by March!!! I've just started PT for the torn left Hamstrings surgery and go back next week for round #2. They were impressed with my strength/progress and I'm gonna press them for a timeline date I should be cleared for the mtn. If the PT sages sound promising I'm going to hit up Sean at Donek for a new board to hang on my wall for inspiration/motivation until the day comes this season I can get back on the hill......and ride it!

I think those guys are getting low more from their overall flexibility than specific Quad strength...... I gave the Burton Step On system a go and I found I needed more Quad flexibility than Quad strength. Going from hardboots to even the stiffest softboots is like wearing flipflops imo and I just couldn't get the control I wanted. Now if your a softbooter moving up to the Step On system then you would see/feel more stiffness/control than you had previously.

So sorry to hear Buddy! I always enjoyed crossing paths with you at the resorts and the many chair rides and runs we shared! I feel ya! I'd say try to enjoy your retirement! At least that's my sentiment for myself being on the AIL list for all of this season....if not longer depending on how my ankle surgery goes next month! Keep riding here to stay in touch!

Hey Dred, Very Interesting..... which bodes (quite) a few questions! What was the impetus behind wanting/needing to add to the already very broad Donek lineup?? Where would you say this new model fits in the Donek lineup in relation to the Rev and the MK?? How about in comparison to a Coiler Angrry 163 and Rev 163 ?? I assume it's not a one trick, one length pony like the MK. Exhausting...... like the infamous vibration/buzz of the MK or what??