barryj Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Showa 282-02 Winter Glove Having been a certified rock/ice mountain guide I was reading an article on the latest and greatest new technical climbing gear for 2023 and this glove got rave reviews and is very popular with the Ice Climbing community and featured a polyurethane coating with a draft collar and a forearm gauntlet!.....Now That Sounded Like The Right Combination To Up My Euro Carving Game! Additionally I'd been going thru a pair of the popular Thor gloves every season just from laying out the carves! ........and At Only $35 I Had To Check Them Out! I found them on line at ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/265408510630 and here is another review referenced in the climbing gear review: https://andrewskurka.com/preview-showa-282-02-gloves/ Being they were designed by and for Japanese fishermen everyone says they run small so I ordered the XXL size and they showed up in 3 days! I like their design and construction but they are Butt ugly imo and the sizing seems a little big on my hand but with the XL size I probably would pack out the insulation from the much snugger fit.....time will tell. It says they are breathable and wicks moisture away from the hand. The gloves are very light and the insulation is thin but feels warm and comfortable. I mean if Ice Climbers are loving them they got to keep you fairly warm! Anyway my hands never get cold out here in the Sierras so not any real concern about if their warm enough......but I will be in Northern NH over Xmas and riding there will be the ultimate test to see how well they keep out the cold! Anyway these gloves are my incentive to get more EC days in this season! I'll provide an update when I've had a few days of riding, carving, EC and weather conditions. Think Snow! Edited October 22, 2022 by barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 They are…..truly hideous 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ShortcutToMoncton said: truly hideous Ha! Yeah, like I said~ Butt Ugly! With that textured palm and hand area they look more like a scary prop for a bad horror movie........ Or Proctology visit from Hell! How'd you like to see the Dr. pull that glove on before your exam! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhamann Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 8 hours ago, barryj said: How'd you like to see the Dr. pull that glove on before your exam! i could look past it 100% if i was fixed right the first time! Proctology or otherwise. cry once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Carving Gooding Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 I'll give them a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarcode Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 I use a very similar type of glove for work during the coldest days of winter. Neither PU or nitrile dipped gloves are abrasion resistant by our standards, so if you're dragging your hand on icy corduroy, you're going to slowly eat through the waterproof portion of the glove. They're better if you're gripping something. OTOH, this style of work/climbing glove tends to be cheap, so if you're content with getting a couple pairs, they'll still work well for carving and keep anyone's hands very warm and completely dry. I've seen ski patrol rocking coated gloves like these for rainy days. I'm waiting for some level super pipe gloves I got off ebay at a significant discount. I'm not very optimistic about the durability, just decided to opt for some wrist protection after @BlueB personally demonstrated how to fracture a hand in three places during a heel side eurocarve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dredman Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Gloves/mitts with wrist guards: Level has not made the Super Carve mitt for a couple years. https://www.ebay.com/itm/144535550011. I have a couple pairs, and they needed the seams sealed, and some shoe glue to keep the material from wearing down on the icy days. Very pricy for a mitten that you still have to do work on to make last. Seirus has the Skeleton glove. https://www.seirus.com/skeletontm-glove. Great wrist guard, not horribly priced. Lots of Shoe Glue needed to make them durable. Seirus use to make a mitten call the Da Bones. Great wrist guard, but needed lots of shoe glue to keep them together. Dakine use to make the Nova Mitt with a wrist guard. Great wrist guard, reasonably priced, easy to shoe glue them up to make them last. I have not tried these https://www.dakine.com/products/wristguard-glove look like a good canidate for shoe glue and e6000 to get them to where they would last. Thor http://www.thorsnowgloves.com. No wrist guard, but simple and well built. But be sure to follow recommendations from the maker, seal seams with Loctite E6000 and spray with a couple layers of polyurethane spray on whole mitten. I know I could not drag my hands, or use them as a crutch, but I live in Montana and typically ride snow that does not demand great technique. That all being said... dragging a hand can and will lead to shoulder and wrist injuries, so be very thoughtful about "patting the dog". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, dredman said: seal seams with Loctite E6000 and spray with a couple layers of polyurethane spray on whole mitten. Ugh!....been there, done that with Thor and other gloves! ...and they still are Toast! by end of 100+ day season! Just give me a "Cheap Butt Ugly" glove that works, until it doesn't and I'll buy another pair of CBU's and it will be less work, less money....and less trouble! Nuff Said................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I'll stick to my 17.99 kincos with snow seal and do my best to keep my mitts out of the snow. I usually get 70+ days out of a pair. Shoulders can't take too much hand dragging anyway anymore Mario 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 howdy people talk about not putting their hands down on the snow like their cool ... when your really laying some deep carves and laying some nice turns and your body is horizontal to the snow it is good to know where your body is in relation to the snow. things happen so fast that it is a feel to where you are in relation to the snow. when the conditions are right you know that skimming your hands/elbow is doable and making deep carves is possible. i have also made deep carves in 10 inches push piles and know better than to put my hands down. putting your hands down on good snow is a soulful feeling when it is possible... showa knit garden gloves over cheap gloves with liner... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, west carven said: putting your hands down on good snow is a soulful feeling when it is possible Amen Brother! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 My Hestra Heli 3 finger gloves, first used Jan 2016, are still going strong inside my hand armour (helmets for my hands). No upper limb injuries in falls since I fractured the index finger on my dominant hand at Aspen Highlands in Feb 2013 and decided I needed better protection than the wrist guards I was wearing at the time. My hands are essential to how I make my living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Level are nice and all, but they don't hold up to dragging your hands in the snow. As dredman said: rather pricey for something you have to work on every season. I ended up laminating fiberglass on mine in places. I have been using Thor gloves the past season, curious to see how they will hold up. Given the current temperatures in these here parts, they will probably last very, very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhufish Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 10 hours ago, SunSurfer said: My Hestra Heli 3 finger gloves, first used Jan 2016, are still going strong inside my hand armour (helmets for my hands). No upper limb injuries in falls since I fractured the index finger on my dominant hand at Aspen Highlands in Feb 2013 and decided I needed better protection than the wrist guards I was wearing at the time. My hands are essential to how I make my living. What do you use for hand armor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluxgame Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 11:03 PM, barryj said: Showa 282-02 Winter Glove These remind me a bit of the Joka gloves/mittens that were standard issue when I worked at Sugarbush on the snowmaking team a while back. They were super warm and very durable, but the insulating liners got nasty real quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cthulhufish said: What do you use for hand armor? Currently using the 3rd iteration shown. The whole thread the post comes from illustrates the range of issues/opinions around touching the snow, protecting hands/wrists etc in falls etc. This is it in use in August this year. I mostly ride without touching the snow, and just occasionally touch down. The profile shape glides smoothly across the snow. Edited October 24, 2022 by SunSurfer additional detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarcode Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 Level Super Pipe gloves arrived in the mail (on sale for ~$50 USD). Some impressions: the glove can be a pain in the ass to take on and off. Both the liner and the shell's inner fabric have a tendency to bunch up in the fingers. very warm; good for me since I get cold hands, but probably excessive for most people. there's a lot of stitching on this glove between the various materials. This seems like the first thing to fail. The materials themselves seem fairly tough, though. the wrist protection seems mediocre. Good at preventing forward wrist movement, but only inhibits backwards movement. Probably enough for me, though. there's padding on the palm and lower thumb for shock absorption, which I think is nice for the rare scenario where I brace a fall with my hands. it looks like a motorcycle glove... These aren't worth it at full price, and I doubt these are going to last the season for me. I really like the solution @SunSurfer cooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brice540iit Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 I do costco Head gloves...i buy 3 pairs per season when they are on sale at around 25$ a pair...., use black duct tape and call it a day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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