D.T. Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Fin, how come you named a rottweiler after a Hungarian actress?? The name suits her well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 but apprehending a perp is against company safety protocol and you are now relieved of your duties:) Way to kick some burglar butt Fin.Guess I won't try to sneak a pair of td3s out the door when I visit hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I don't think the law allows for that kind of thing in my state. :( The US Constitution allows for it. For now. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideGuy Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 So let me get this strait...in the US it is perfectly legal to chase someone down the street wielding an assault riffle? Great story, I'm glad the thief was caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 So let me get this strait...in the US it is perfectly legal to chase someone down the street wielding an assault riffle?Great story, I'm glad the thief was caught. Depends on what state you live in. 2A has not been incorperated.....yet.;) If this had happened in MA, Fin would most likely be the one getting arrested. .....and, if it's semi-auto, and not select fire, it is not an assault riffle, regardless of what some politicos may call it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Yes, Fin was protecting his property. But how much is a human life worth? Seriously, how many people here would really have been willing to pull the trigger, and in all likelihood kill the thief? Any responses might be best in a separate "Off Topic" thread. SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Yes, Fin was protecting his property. But how much is a human life worth? Seriously, how many people here would really have been willing to pull the trigger, and in all likelihood kill the thief? Any responses might be best in a separate "Off Topic" thread. SunSurfer I'm a good enough shot to wing 'em... or fire a warning shot. I'd shoot to kill if my family was being attacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Yes, Fin was protecting his property. But how much is a human life worth? Seriously, how many people here would really have been willing to pull the trigger, and in all likelihood kill the thief? Don't be silly, you can't kill for stealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Don't be silly, you can't kill for stealing. unless they're stealing a horse...then it's ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Karvlow Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Don't be silly, you can't kill for stealing. You can if ya live in Texas.............gota luv those redneck states. Whats mine is mine NOT yours!!!! I bust my a$$ for all I have. If the lazer sight don't make you leave, then the first one is rubber, if your still there after that it's on you what the next round is. Good job Fin give that dog a big-ol-bone :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Wow, Fin you're such a BAMF! I'm a little turned on by that:1luvu::1luvu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algunderfoot Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Nicely done Fin, Just goes to show one can accomplish anything with properly applied ordanance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ong Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 About 10 years ago in my neck of the woods an old man confronted 2 guys who were burglarizing his neighbors car. The 2 perps ended up getting a couple of shotgun blasts as they were RUNNING AWAY from the scene. DA refused to charge the shooter, wild wild west indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west carven Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 howdy i would have pop um... people need to respect others and their stuff. if you dont have respect for others all hell will break loose. how can you live like that knowing that someone you pissed off gonna find you and kick your ass. respect others, i have no problem teaching others respect! live aloha! karma dude!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Uh oh, this is turning into a gun debate. Paging Dr. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Yellow Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Hey Fin.... I found this wallet at the Bomber House last season... I'll send it back to you asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 My understanding is that the AR-15 shoots high velocity rounds. I don't know what kind of ordinance was in Fin's weapon. A few years ago I spent some time in East Timor with the Australian Defence Force on UN peacekeeping duty as an intensive care doc. The medical unit's commanding officer told me their rifle's high velocity bullets were lethal if they hit the target anywhere between the elbows and the knees because of the extensive tissue damage caused by the shockwave of the bullet as it passed through. I'm not sure you can shoot an AR-15 to reliably just "wound" somebody. In New Zealand, we have special armed police squads to deal with violent and armed offenders. The ultimate sanction society has is to take the life of the criminal. Although NZ courts do not impose the death penalty, our police occasionally shoot dead violent offenders who attempt to harm police or other members of society. They shoot to kill. Our police will chase people speeding on the roads, but have a well publicised policy to give up the chase if speeds get too high or the chase is judged too dangerous. The result is that some chases are ended and the speeder escapes. The policy is there because a significant number of chases have ended in serious crashes and death to both the speeder and innocent road users. Essentially, our police only carry weapons when they are prepared to use them to kill. By picking up a rifle Fin acted in a way that can be interpreted as that he was prepared to kill to protect his property. SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durace Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Nice job Mr. Doyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 When I lived in South Africa, all firearm owners were told to shoot to kill in the situation of selfdefence or intruders in the house. Dead robber - no court case. Also, police recomended holow point bullets (dum-dum). First bulet finishes the shooting - exit wound is the size of baseball, at least, plus, with higher power guns, you can not shoot an inocent person behind with the bullet that pierced the robber right trough. Dum-dum explodes, so there is no danger to the public behind. However, holow point can not penetrate thicker glass or windshield, so you have to load hollow/full jacket/hollw,etc... I always had bullet in the chamber and safety on. Gun under the pillow every night... Thanks God, I only had to fire in the air once to scare of the car tieves in the night. It came very close to shooting on another occassion, when they wanted to high-jack my car (my wife was in too) on the fuel station, in the night. Gas attendant ran away into his office (what allerted me), and I already cocked the pistol. Then the high-jackers decided they didn't like the car enough, or didn't like my dark and aware look, and walked away. Even in the wild, wild South, chasing with an arm, after someone that's running away from you would be illegal. Shooting him would lend you into prison for quite a few years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 why do they call them dum dum bullets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 "My understanding is that the AR-15 shoots high velocity rounds."Absolutley, that's the whole point... "The medical unit's commanding officer told me their rifle's high velocity bullets were lethal if they hit the target anywhere between the elbows and the knees because of the extensive tissue damage caused by the shockwave of the bullet as it passed through." Far too much B.S. here. 5.56 is a proven uderperformer in most theatres of action. The bullet used does have a tendancy to tumble, thus doing more damage internally than the caliber would otherwise do. I would prefer that platform with something along the lines of, say, the 7.62x39 or the 6.8 SPC, but I live in the country and would use it on varmits of the coyote size also. The new .30 Remington holds real promise for the AR platform. "I'm not sure you can shoot an AR-15 to reliably just "wound" somebody." If you are a good shot, yes you could. I've always been taught to shoot center mass, i.e. to reliably neutralize the intended target. Just a few humble thoughts from someone who has spent some time with weapons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arclite Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 why do they call them dum dum bullets? Head shot = brain soup Watch the movie "In Bruges" He'll tell you all about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 By picking up a rifle Fin acted in a way that can be interpreted as that he was prepared to kill to protect his property. SunSurfer You write too little of value for someone who writes so much. Look at it this way, Fin chased the guy down to protect his stuff. He brought the rifle to protect himself. If you don't value your property. Fine. Let it get stolen, but don't get down on Fin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 WAY TO GO FIN, CONGRATS Norman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Yes, Fin was protecting his property. But how much is a human life worth? Seriously, how many people here would really have been willing to pull the trigger, and in all likelihood kill the thief? Any responses might be best in a separate "Off Topic" thread. SunSurfer a minor theft like that is certainly not worth the taking of a life, but thievery is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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