BadBrad Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I was just wondering which cants most folks were using these days. Jack's tech article (http://www.bomberonline.com/articles/canting.cfm) recommends starting at 3 degrees front and rear (most front toe lift and rear heel lift rather than canting). But I see lots of used TD2s for sale here with 3 & 6 degree disks, so I'm guessing that lots of people are using 3 front & 6 rear. So this is sort of a survey since I'm curious what most folks are using. I have been using Burton raceplates for many years. For the past several years I rode with a little front toe lift and a little more rear heel lift, using the shims under the toe/heel blocks, with narrow stances of 16-17". I tried this with a wider stance but wasn't comfortable and got wavy heelside turns, so I went with a 7 degree rear cant and a little front toe lift. I recently bought some used TD2s to get some more cant/lift options, and I was just trying to figure out where to start. So, what are you all using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wun Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3 and 3 for me. Lots of conflicting advice on the 'net for newbies. Some places say to start double-flats, some say 0f 3r, and some say double 3s. I posted a Want to Buy in the classifieds here for a pair of TD2s, asking for double flats. I am so lucky that my seller tossed in two 3s in addition to the flats. Turned out that I could dial in with, and only with, double 3s with my HSP boots. I'm a bit curious about how a 6 disk on the back foot would feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3f 6r here. I could live with 3/3 and probably could adjust to 0f 6r too. I don't think I could ride 0/0, though. 3/3 is probably the best combo to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_roboteye Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I ride burton raceplates on all my boards and ride 0F and 7R with the cant block that comes with newer raceplates. I like it and it works well for me. There are as many answers to this question as there are people who will reply though. L8R, Dave R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I ride my Tinkler and Schtubby flat 0 - 0. Angles under 60 degrees. Except for my Virus Cyborg where I stand 85f and 77b, I use 3 - 3 degrees cantdisks want no cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 All with 0-0 disks, angles from 70 to 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3 front 6 rear - same as I've been doing for 20 years, only the stance angles have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cail Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 flat, angles ~70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 flat/flat angles from 67/70 down to 30/35. seems to work and I choose not to make time to mess with stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbo Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 How Does The Larger Degree Of Cant In The Rear Help Your Riding? I Ride With 3--3 Now. Thanks Kr:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3/3 with outward cant on both, 70/65 on my skinniest board down to 45/40 on my axxes mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3 and 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEBSIGHT360 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3 in front (toe lift) and 6 in back mostly inward cant with a little heel lift. I ride long(188-200cm) wide boards 24-25cm with a surf stance. 55 front, 34 back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colintkemp Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 3 and 3. (Cateks about 4 and 4.) Angles between 60 and 70 depending upon the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_roboteye Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 How Does The Larger Degree Of Cant In The Rear Help Your Riding? I Ride With 3--3 Now.Thanks Kr:) It biases more of your weight to the front of the board where it belongs. This will however, make your front leg do more work. later, Dave R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Widest stance possible - makes for a very stable ride without looking like you got off a horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I tried most every combination starting with pre-insert sims 0/2.5/5 degree plates, burton 7* & various settings on unicants & cateks. I've pretty much settled on 3-3 inward no heel or toe lift. I'd rather ride too little cant than too much. never tried outward cant, my knees hurt just thinking about it:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian M Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I ride with 'no cant' on Burton race plates at 60/60, but use asymmetrical forward lean and boot collar lean settings to achieve the same effect as cants. This lets me stay very low on the board still, which I really like. I'm using old Burton Fire boots, and usually ride with my front foot set at 2 and my rear foot at 3. (The boots have settings 1,2,3,4 with 4 being the most aggressive forward lean) I think each of these notches is 5 degrees of forward lean. The thing that made a much bigger difference to my riding last year was to finally realize that when I carved, my lower legs were applying pressure to the boot collars at different times. One little adjustment of that magic boot collar tilt screw, and many years of chatter disappeared from my heelside carves. My (long-winded) point is that you can do a lot with most boots. The angle between your foot and lower leg will be different front and back, though, and you can't achieve heel and toe lift in quite the same way. Works for me, but I'd be curious to play with matching 3 degree TD 3's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 3f, all inward cant 3r, all heel lift. I'm not sure what the reasoning behind that setup was, but it seems to work for me. Probably 3f inward cant just because that's the way I am used to riding from the original TD1s, and 3r heel lift to make it so that rotating my hips to the nose on the heelsides doesn't screw up the edge angle near the back foot too badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgforce Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 0 front 0 back. For wider boards the principal is to get as lower to the board as possible in order to control the edge better. It is ideal when the binding have no lift at all like the IBEX (ex-burton race plates) binding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEJ Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 6, 6. True to the centerline of the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I watched this thread for a while to see how many different opinions would show up... twenty posts and almost as many different setups. I ride Ibex with the seven degree cant in the front and back... but at angles of 63/60 it's mostly toe lift in the front and heel lift in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 It is interesting to see all the choices. I've ridden Burton raceplates for years and recently got some used TD2's, mainly for the increased cant/lift options. I set them up with 3 degree front, combo toe lift and cant, and 3 degree rear, all heel lift, based on Jack's article. But standing on the board with that setup I feel like I'd be more comforable with more rear cant, so I might go with 3 front/6 rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 It is interesting to see all the choices. I've ridden Burton raceplates for years and recently got some used TD2's, mainly for the increased cant/lift options. I set them up with 3 degree front, combo toe lift and cant, and 3 degree rear, all heel lift, based on Jack's article. But standing on the board with that setup I feel like I'd be more comforable with more rear cant, so I might go with 3 front/6 rear.Just an FYI... if you were using the 7 degree cants that came with the race plate... they are a 70 degree cant angle if you want to replicate the same angles on your TD2s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Just an FYI... if you were using the 7 degree cants that came with the race plate... they are a 70 degree cant angle if you want to replicate the same angles on your TD2s Really? I didn't know that. I thought they were 90 degrees. The Carver's Almanac also says 90 degrees. I actually rode the raceplates flat with just a little front toe lift and a little more rear heel lift, but that was with a very narrow stance width. I tried that with a wider stance width and shallower angles on a wider board, and I got wavy heelside turns until I put the 7 degree cant on the rear binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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