Buford67 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 My friend is in the market for a new snowboard. He is currently riding a Vapor and BMC by Burton. He is considering a new custom by Burton. For the price, is there better quality out there for all mountain riding? Rider is intermediate. Any feedback would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarder_Ted Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Prior MFR. Less expensive than a Custom and far better. You can get a custom built board for $485. If your friend wants something turnier/more playful, the AMF still carves well and is a fun little board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Donek has high quality SB boards as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Probably something in the used market will be more appropriate at a Burton Custom price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Check out Amplid, Peter Bauer's company, they have several options. The possibilities I am familiar with are below. If he wants a beefy all mountain board for advanced riders, I would recommend the UNW8. A more playful board is the Surfari. It is a fun carver and great powder board. A difficult combination to achieve. The Creamer is the best "do everything" all mountain board I know of (I have tried quite a few over the years) and it is also super friendly and moderately priced. It is the same shape as their Milligram splitboard which I have been riding for 4 years now in every condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Burton Custom?? I wouldn't want a wide park board for all Mtn. riding. You want a Freeride weapon - Check out Jones snowboards For the same price as a Custom or less, there are 5 different Jones models to choose from. For East coast riding the Flagship model will do it all..... but I was partial to the storm chaser. https://www.backcountry.com/jones-snowboards?show=all&p=salePriceUSbcs%3A[500+TO+600]&nf=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford67 Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Another question I have is what makes one board better than another board? Construction? Material? Mass produced vs not mass produced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Even talking to the builder of your board. How cool is that? Incredible if you ask me. Custom vs mass produced Yes look at: Donek Virus Prior Coiler Alloy SG Kessler Oxess Jasey Jay Etc. He wants an incredible board without the high cost? Look at the full lineup of Fullbag snowsurfs. Edited January 6, 2019 by Poloturbo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Buford67 said: Another question I have is what makes one board better than another board? Construction? Material? Mass produced vs not mass produced? I really think it often it comes down to personal preference and matching the board to the rider's skill, technique, and riding style. I do like smaller companies though that are not producing in cheap labor / lower quality factories, but that is a personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 At that budget, I'd get: https://fullbag.com/collections/snowsurfs/products/diamond-blade-163-b 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 I love my Coiler and my D.O. but there is something to be said for mass produced boards. Usually easier to ride as a demo and some of them are really not bad. Lately I've been really impressed with Burton's camber boards (Skeleton Key in particular). If I had the capital that would probably be my all mountain SB setup. But alas... Coilers are sooooo nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 hours ago, daveo said: At that budget, I'd get: https://fullbag.com/collections/snowsurfs/products/diamond-blade-163-b Best one for the money by far. I tried so many boards and always bring it everywhere. Its not the best all rounder by fullbag. I think the blunt Diamond would be better as it carves well and powder demon also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Maybe resident jet fighter pilot and Russian aircraft aficionado @Mig can chime in and make a Fullbag recommendation for the most versatile all mountain Fullbag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 12:45 PM, barryj said: Burton Custom?? I wouldn't want a wide park board for all Mtn. riding. You want a Freeride weapon - Check out Jones snowboards For the same price as a Custom or less, there are 5 different Jones models to choose from. For East coast riding the Flagship model will do it all..... but I was partial to the storm chaser. https://www.backcountry.com/jones-snowboards?show=all&p=salePriceUSbcs%3A[500+TO+600]&nf=1 A custom coiler with all the trimming comes in at like 650, worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, bobdea said: A custom coiler with all the trimming comes in at like 650, worth it. Mmm. Yeah. That's the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Thanks everyone for the input on this thread. Been out of the game for a long time and I’m also looking for a new all-Mtn SB board. I’ll look into the many above suggestions. Thank you! I want something that can lay out carves, float well in pow and also just cruise chopped up runs with the kids. I have a friend who is super cool and is letting me take his Donek Incline to Montucky Clear Cut to demo it!! Edited January 7, 2019 by Jcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Coiler bxfr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Jcar said: I want something that can lay out carves, float well in pow and also just cruise chopped up runs with the kids. Honestly all the boards mentioned in this thread can do all of these (granted, rider dependent). Some will excel at one thing at the expense of others. Demo as much as you can and see what speaks to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, JRAZZ said: Demo as much as you can and see what speaks to you! On that note........ if anyone in this thread is going to MCC and wants to bring any of the above mentioned boards for me to demo that would be very cool..... wink wink, nudge nudge!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I'll have like 3 of each with me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) On 1/6/2019 at 11:42 PM, daveo said: Coiler bxfr How does the BXFR actually compare to the VSR AM in the real world? Edited January 9, 2019 by Jcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Well it's an apples and oranges thing. Am is for hardboots bx is for softboots in their stock shape and intended use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) On 1/6/2019 at 4:37 PM, daveo said: At that budget, I'd get: https://fullbag.com/collections/snowsurfs/products/diamond-blade-163-b Directionally challenged but the best "do everything" that I have for sure. If I had to pack one board for a trip, this would be it. Detune the nose past the early rise for best results Edited January 9, 2019 by slopestar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcar Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, daveo said: Well it's an apples and oranges thing. Am is for hardboots bx is for softboots in their stock shape and intended use. Ahhh! That’s why the AM sounded so good!! Missed the point that that board is HB based. I’m not seeing any pictures on the Coiler website of the board design....so I missed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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