Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I was going to invoke the Inca...But, yeah, that'll sink just as well... Try on a Winterstick, circa '76... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Eric Brammer aka PSR said: I was going to invoke the Inca...But, yeah, that'll sink just as well... Try on a Winterstick, circa '76... Anyone that has skied the deep and Steep...knows why I am bringing this up...this float on the surface technique is missing that ability...I assume you skied before you put on the Stick...I am not aware of anyone including winter stick that has pursued the ability to truly Submarine on a snowboard...Float is Great Ok but once you disappear, you will never go back Edited February 11, 2018 by softbootsurfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2018-02-09 at 9:43 PM, softbootsurfer said: A 2013 (or so) Venture Euphoria is as close as you are going to get to that shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Mig said: A 2013 (or so) Venture Euphoria is as close as you are going to get to that shape. Thanks...wonder if theirs was a 20 x 215 with stiff middle and super soft Nose and Tail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: Thanks...wonder if theirs was a 20 x 215 with stiff middle and super soft Nose and Tail? Wider and shorter. Don't know about the flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piusthedrcarve Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 From Tetongravity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Reminds me of the Swingbo. They certainly looked impressive, though why one would go to those lengths just to eliminate the advantage of being able to carve ONE edge instead of two is another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 that that has way more than 2x the attack angle the swingbo had; I rode one once and the lack of edge angle made it useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 I rode a Swingbo once. Then I thought "you know, I really like my collarbones." and gave up on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 There’s a lot of development going on in softboot gear, some of its good and some not so much. ive only been on a couple of them, the ride timeless for this year is interesting, also has the same issues that the old titanal topsheet boards had. Mine blew up on the first day out. The thing was really neat from a performance perspective. It did everything pretty well. Great concept, Chinese metal construction yielded the expected delaminated results. Key point, insane float for a 167 but yet it still carved as well as my tanker 177.... just a little more touchy/twitchy on edge. The bataleon boards some folks that rip really like them. The geometry on those make my head hurt, good luck getting those a base grind. Apperently they work though. Furbergs are different, like that concept too. Want to ride one. IMO, in alpine it’s the parallel format that’s running the boards and plates into a dead end. That being said, I’m hoping this softboot carve thing brings some folks over to alpine, we double our numbers and non-race gear will get better fast. Virus Frank went on a rant about the lack of innovation on Facebook the other day but I can’t find it now. He made a couple good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdee406 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Great points... I also think that we should embrace and encourage it. I don’t know whether we’ll see this happen again, so let’s feed it. Who knows, it could be a turning point, kind of when the wannabe street skaters who kept falling and couldn’t Ollie their way out of a paper bag, realized that they could get on a Longboard, make turns instead, and have a blast! Now young jibbers are discovering the joy of carving a turn, and companies, like Korua, are making it ‘cool to carve’. However, as noted, some truly funky hybrids will appear, as people always seem to want to reinvent the wheel! Edited March 22, 2018 by Emdee406 Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdee406 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) On 1/29/2018 at 2:28 PM, Lurch said: I'm not sure this is what Jack had in mind regarding an integrated plate mount, but is this not that exactly what this is? Found some better detailed photos @cheetahultrasports.com The designer actually came to one of our airline races, and asked me to try it. The problem is, he’s trying to redesign not only the board, but snowboard technique! He told me I’d have to ride with less effort, and to not TRY to put it on edge It felt tippy and unstable... I couldn’t wait to get off it! I also told him that I’m all honesty that he had two huge things going against him (and about 10 smaller ones), 1) The price was way too high, especially considering it had an extruded base, and 2) Telling anyone who rode it, that they’d have to relearn their technique, just to be able to ride it, was not going to endear it to the masses! Edited March 22, 2018 by Emdee406 Omission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) On 22/03/2018 at 4:45 PM, bobdea said: The bataleon boards some folks that rip really like them. The geometry on those make my head hurt, good luck getting those a base grind. Apperently they work though. The TBT tech has gotten better over the years i used to have a bataleon airobic as a beater/rock board for when conditions were poor it was incredibily unstable and vague as to how far you would have to pitch the board before the edge engaged. As a result i jokingly reffered to TBT as totaly ballocks technology its now with a friend after i gave him a loan of then refused to take it back as otherwise i would set the thing on fire. Flash forward 4 plus years in development TBT is far far better when i demo'd the carver it wasn't even noticeable in how the board went from edge to edge and was far more stable. Edited March 24, 2018 by scottishsurfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/6/2018 at 7:43 PM, piusthedrcarve said: From Tetongravity. There was a Swiss ? guy at Milk back in 88/89 with a similar device...2 short skis with a raised platform that turned on a dime and felt plain scary over 15 mph...he was adamant that it would replace all snowboards within a few years...I only tried it once, but that was enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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