drschwartz Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Deluxe vs UPZ? UPZ all day for me, but I have a wide forefoot that was continually crunched in my Deeluxe boots. liners can be an issue. I switched stock to Intuition with moderate success, and then went to custom liners from Surefoot and have been happy as a clam ever since?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburk Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, jatkinson said: Is the liner squirming inside the shell a known issue? I also had this issue with my 2016/17 RC10s and the stock liner. Not so much on cold days, but it got progressively worse as the temperatures rose. I considered the Intuition Power Wrap, but because I have really narrow heels but need an extra wide toe box due to some previous foot injuries, I went with Intuition's Pro Tongue liner. The helpful folks at Intuition said it's about as stiff as the Power Wrap, but wider in the forefoot, and has laces you can tighten for as much heel hold as you need. Had my first day in these today, a very different feel from the stock liners (way more direct, have to be a bit more subtle), now I just have to remember not to crank the buckles down as tight as I used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 hours ago, jatkinson said: Is the liner squirming inside the shell a known issue? I just had my first day on new UPZ boots and this was driving me crazy. I asked UPZ and he said that my shell must be the wrong size. I felt like the liner fit really well, and stayed put on my foot but the whole thing was moving around unless I had the buckles cranked way too tight. I would say so. My foot measures 28.4cm, I am in a size 28 boot, and I got the squirm. No way I'm going to a 27. Tried that once, ouch. Perhaps if your foot size is a perfect match for a shell size you won't get squirm. I guess mine isn't. Unfortunately you're just going to have to open your wallet and get some better liners. You won't miss the money once you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Edges Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 JJ, Take your shells to Intuition and get a proper set of liners. At your (ahem) girth, don't even think about anything but the stiff tongues. This season will be too long for sore feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Would UPZ sell boots without the liners? I should have asked when I ordered mine but didn't think of it. I knew that I wasn't going to use the liners from my first UPZ experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jatkinson Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Rusty Edges said: ... At your (ahem) girth... Very subtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Coiler Nirvana V-Cam is the perfect soul free carving board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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