Jump to content
Note to New Members ×

Alpine Snowboard Plate Systems


www.oldsnowboards.com

Recommended Posts

so, you were second and Bruce was first? :biggthump

Unfortunatly not me ArcRider was the lucky 2nd place winner. Risking his life racing with the SGP. Bruce won't give up a first place finish to anyone. Lovely conditions +7 deg C. and all the rain you could swallow. Goggles wouldn't work because of the rain,the best results were to keep eyes shut and open them as little as possible. Fog thick enough you couldn't see the top from the bottom. Overall a great day of racing for all ages.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

And today one of those home built plates (the original SGP prototype now retired) was on a board ridden by a senior class rider that placed second in the Final Ontario provincial races today. The actual first place winner was riding his own home built Coiler without a plate.

...and today a junior riding the home built contraption depicted in post #764 above won the U15 race at Owl's Head to finish the Coupe Québec season #1 in that category. In rain and fog on a course that got rutted almost knee deep in a hurry.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mike do you have the 5mm as well? If you do please post a comparison review. I wouldn't get a chance to get on the 4mm until our ECES.

BBP on ice :1luvu::1luvu::1luvu::1luvu:

Nope - I rode the 4mm at SES and loved it, never got around to trying the 5mm but got a pretty good idea that I didn't need to after watching others on the 5mm and hearing their comments and comparisons.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...

Reposted from 2012 Board Porn thread:

So Tinkler went with the sliding component actually being the plate. It's an option that most of the plate makers will have considered. I certainly did, and then discarded it on the basis of controlling the wear on the plate, especially the wear due to lateral forces between plate and pins and the necessity to keep the sliding portions away from the bindings.

If Mike Tinkler sees this can he comment or explain how he dealt with this potential issue, please.

SunSurfer

I think you will see more of the results of the on snow testing in the coming months. Or, if you are up at Timberline you might see them in action sooner:eplus2: I was the first to ride his latest Plate system and I think it is going to definitely turn some heads.

Keep in mind Tinkler systems have been a part of the Olympics from the beginning. He has been to the big show and knows the demands placed on the systems well. Both US Olympians were on his plates. Post count as of 07022011 57,276

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for reposting in this thread, this is the more appropriate place for any response from MT to be followed through.

I am well aware of the experience and knowledge of the designer, which makes any comments he makes well worth reading.

SunSurfer

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Worth a "Repost" from the JJA snowboards thread. I think Ace is expressing a reasonable and common thought in regards to the plate design option of a UPM or 4x4 pattern option.

Originally Posted by *Ace*

Is it a special insert patterm or UPM?

Sounds like a terrible idea to have your insert pattern just for your own plate system. How many racers would really buy these boards PLUS the plates and not be able to mix and match?

I don't think I would buy a JJA snowboard, a board that has yet to claim any podiums or titles, if I couldn't use a Bomber Boiler Plate. At the same time, why buy a plate that won't fit on my fleet of Kesslers or ANY OTHER SNOWBOARD?

Ace. This is a fair statement for many. Keep in mind that some of those in cutting edge of developing these systems may not be focused on the rec rider. For those looking for the very ultimate system it is probably not a priority to make money through sales nor exchangeability on multiple boards.

It is important to remember the focus, what is the builders goal?

I know it is hard to rationalize some times that everyone is not here to make a killing. It is not always about the money, it is not always about you or "us". Sometimes it is about building the finest product that suites you and those around you. Fortunately there are those that can and do build products for "us", the rec riders , racers etc. Donek and Bomber systems are perfect examples. I do also accept that does NOT mean they are or are not the "best" system. We are fortunate that these companies, individuals are willing to put so much effort into them. It is a good thing!

__________________

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Additional testing on Mt Hood wrapped up last week. Lots of great feedback.

Reposted from Mike's FB page:

Custom Tinkler A.R.T. Plate. Total weight 44.oz Includes all hardware

Fawcett just finished a week of testing at Hood and gives it a big thumbs up. Head to head with Apex. 2lbs lighter and at $485 it's a winner! Would love to have you on it. At 2lbs lighter he thinks SL is going to be great. Extra board set ups would only be $65 each.

post-198-141842347187_thumb.jpg

post-198-14184234719_thumb.jpg

post-198-141842347192_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Video Jasey-Jay Anderson's Plate set up.

http://www.rds.ca/ski/chroniques/326869.html

Starting at approx the one minute mark

His website:

http://www.jaseyjay.com/

Facebook Link http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=36261317996

On snow photo at Mt Hood / Timberline / Oregon in Sept.

post-198-141842347197_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looks like rail slides similar to the Vist, one stance option, what's the stance width? Are there different choices? Weight and price are good.

I believe this particular plate was built to a single stance for a particular rider. I know that Mike, myself and most of the proto type riders are all riding in the 20" center to center stance range. Multiple stance patterns will be the norm. Overall this plate in not at all similar to the Viste system. Very clean, light, low and few parts. I am anxious to get back on the newest builds. I have a couple new boards with this design in the works. I rode Mike's GS proto end of last season. Did not have perfect grooming and it still worked like a champ. I personally am asking allot from Mike on my next board. It will be combining all of his design methods. TNT, Snow Stix, Plate and board shapes. Good fun ahead! Bryan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

Another example of the custom Tinkler plates being created and shipped.

Looking forward to getting feedback from the new users.

I have been asked the height. This can be different depending on plate thickness.

Mine is 29mm from top of snowboard to top of plate at the axles.

post-198-14184235273_thumb.jpg

post-198-141842352731_thumb.jpg

post-198-141842352734_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Care to tell us what the two nuts are for? Are there bumpers under the plate to change how the board interacts with the plate? Or something like SnowStix on the underside to change how the plate flexes?

Hi Corey. Yes, allows the rider to change the flex / rebound characteristics of the interaction between the plate and the snowboard.

Additional photos of another plate/snowboard set up.

post-198-141842352737_thumb.jpg

post-198-141842352741_thumb.jpg

post-198-141842352741_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They are adjusters that allow you to change the way the plate and board work together. Tuning turn initiation / travel. http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=359754&postcount=790

Brian,

You're going to have to get Mike to stop using those bolts in the center of the plate, this is the third time I've seen you answer that question. Speaking of which what are they used for again?

Dave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Brian,

You're going to have to get Mike to stop using those bolts in the center of the plate, this is the third time I've seen you answer that question. Speaking of which what are they used for again?

Dave

Dave, :) Thanks for noticing. I am going to just give a different explaination each time. ;)

Earlier tonight I BEGGED Mike to post his discription of the adjusters. He is too smart to fall for that trap!! :eplus2:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Haha, I asked "A or B", you said "Yes!" ;)

I'm highly skeptical of any system that doesn't post the nitty gritty details. It's just weird to not want to show off the details of the product. I'm way more likely to buy a plate system from someone that shows exactly how their pivots/sliders/mounts/adjusters work over vague descriptions. See the awesome Bomber and Donek pictures & videos for comparison.

Demos at SES?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can i throw out a guess and say little carbon torsion rods, Or rods that bow when compressed.The exact type of tuning that would make a soft plate harder. That would be cool eh ?? One plate that satisfies most riding conditions (the holy grail of plates maybe not so elusive).Let me know if i'm close ! ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...