first there was a summerstick and then

[BlueB]

As per Julian's wish ;), Woody has new trucks/wheels:

Bennett 5.0 / Seismic 130/30, Lemon/Lime Zig-Zags.

It pumps like crazy with this setup!

Big-Zigs live on Vampie now and feel great.

.

[BlueB]

Shlong... Woody... Shloody!

Didn't take the pics when completed, but after few rides, so it's already a bit beat-up :(

It started as a park board blank, a bit of cutting, varnish and re-drilling = slalom board.

The nose is perfect natural wedging for the Bennett 4.3. Randal 125/35 at the back had to be de-wedged a lot to cancel the tail and then some. Concave and tail are just nice. However, the deck is a bit to narrow and on soft-twisty side...

Got the new bolts to replace the oversized ones.

[carvingchef]

NICE BORIS

check back tomorrow for a very special creation

[Arclite]

As per Julian's wish ;), Woody has new trucks/wheels:

Bennett 5.0 / Seismic 130/30, Lemon/Lime Zig-Zags.

It pumps like crazy with this setup!

Big-Zigs live on Vampie now and feel great.

.

I love how you mix-and-matched lengths from your plethora of screws.

[BlueB]

It started its' life as a cheap longboard complete from London Drugs...

We've cut the nose shorter and more Sl shaped and re-drilled the mounting holes.

Front truck we repalced with a Bennett 5.0, rear one (Tracker 129 knock-off) remained, but on a changed base. Wheels we replaced with some sweet Grippins 78/84. Wheel bases: 18.0, 19.25, 20.5, 21.75 + bonus one for park riding 15.5.

Pics before and after the "operation":

[BlueB]

It had the test ride today. Very nice. Turny at 19.25 base. Pumps very well.

We both agree that the tail could have been a bit wider.

More pics:

[carvingchef]

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"Why metal" you may ask, "why not" I may reply and because nobody told me I shouldn’t or couldn’t and let's not forget the cool factor

Metal construction for a smooth and dump ride, it absorbs the vibrations you normally get from riding on uneven asphalt and rough pavement, it doesn’t make your legs as tired so you can ride all day long or at least longer than normal

Who am I kidding? it’s totally about the cool factor

Here is a list of the material starting from the bottom layer, ¼ inch Baltic birch, fiberglass, aluminum sheet, fiberglass, ¼ inch Baltic birch, paint, grip tape

Total length 48” wheelbase 34” camber 1.5” sidecut 15 m.

It’ll be tested this weekend and Julian can write a review if he wants to

[Arclite]

I'm sure soon the "Evil Chef" will post a picture explaining why metal and fiberglass aren't friends.

P.S. Does anyone else see the resemblance between Mike (swissracer) and Batman from that picture?

[CarvingScooby]

“METAL MONSTER”

Metal construction for a smooth and dump ride, it absorbs the vibrations you normally get from riding on uneven asphalt and rough pavement, it doesn’t make your legs as tired so you can ride all day long or at least longer than normal

Here is a list of the material starting from the bottom layer, ¼ inch Baltic birch, fiberglass, aluminum sheet, fiberglass, ¼ inch Baltic birch, paint, grip tape

Total length 48” wheelbase 34” camber 1.5” sidecut 15 m.

It’ll be tested this weekend and Julian can write a review if he wants to

WHOAA:eek:!...MONSTER! Andrea, COOL board. How's that ride? Look forward "Arclite" report...

Cheers

RT

[boarderboy]

Look forward to the performance review.

Somewhere in the far reaches of my cranial archive, I was pretty sure there had been an "Aluma-Flex" board 'way back, maybe marketed by Gordon and Smith Surfboards(?)

Here's an ebay reference

Buy vintage skateboard, Sporting Goods on eBay. Find great deals on Clothing, Shoes Accessories, ... ALUMA-FLEX 160 SKATEBOARD AD 1975 SK635. Buy It Now ...

desc.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...skateboard%22...skateboard...

Ride on!

BB

[KingCrimson]

Ow, that topsheet gives me a headache like all of my boards.

[carvingchef]

the WAVE DREAMER

that's all i need to say

side view

[Arclite]

No grip? Sketchy...

[carvingchef]

i am still thinking where exactly to put grip tape on it, don't worry, you'll be the first one to see it

[carvingchef]

and here is Julian's "SQUARE DANCER"

[carvingchef]

the "DOUBLE DOUBLE"

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the extra weight is really not that much, the double double is much heavier but that's because of the double trucks and the double wheels

comments welcome

[Gecko]

looks like a fun Butt board

[lowrider]

Remove one set of trucks place two wheels on one beam on each side of the axle, you now have the same effect as an apex plate on a snowboard in that you are going to bennifit from having two wheels on each side fallowing the same path but out of phase as they roll over obstacles thereby smoothing your ride:biggthump:biggthump. Guaranteed to decrease the bumps you feel by half. If you don't understand my explaination look at the way a tandem truck or trailer has it's axles arranged.

[BlueB]

Remove one set of trucks place two wheels on one beam on each side of the axle,

Genius!

[BlueB]

Andrea,

As much as I admire your work, I wonder why you keep on doing this detail on many of your boards? If I remember correctly, one of Julian's broke right at that point. Reducing the material at the point of highest stress is always bad news... It should rather look as what I sketched on the other side.

Another note, the 4 trucks configurration can work properly only if there is 0 flex to the deck. Otherwise, the farther set lifts of the ground. Then in a turn, they would contact again, but grip less then the inner ones. Lowrider's idea solves this issue.

[lowrider]

Largest radii possible to clear wheel travel. If you really want to solve you material weakness where you narrow it laminate your own plywood with fiberglass cloth between layers and use epoxy not poyester. about 3 layers should give a pretty firm deck. Thats how i tune the flex on my snowboard plates as i construct them.

[Arclite]

Andrea,

As much as I admire your work, I wonder why you keep on doing this detail on many of your boards? If I remember correctly, one of Julian's broke right at that point. Reducing the material at the point of highest stress is always bad news... It should rather look as what I sketched on the other side.

Another note, the 4 trucks configurration can work properly only if there is 0 flex to the deck. Otherwise, the farther set lifts of the ground. Then in a turn, they would contact again, but grip less then the inner ones. Lowrider's idea solves this issue.

Largest radii possible to clear wheel travel. If you really want to solve you material weakness where you narrow it laminate your own plywood with fiberglass cloth between layers and use epoxy not poyester. about 3 layers should give a pretty firm deck. Thats how i tune the flex on my snowboard plates as i construct them.

Well, exactly.

The dervish broke because it was an experimental thing.

We were using 2/3 (1/2" instead of 3/4") the amount of wood we normally did.

Now we use fiberglass to reinforce our boards

The Double-Double, is 3/4" thick, not including the mounting stuff.

It's rock solid.

[carvingchef]

Hi Boris, that little detail as you call it it's mostly to avoid wheel bite, wheel clearance changes with different configurations of trucks and wheels, when i made the double double i was measuring the wheel clearance with avila 75 mm. that's why i did that, with the freeride you don't need as much clearance, not so much for the 3mm. difference in diameter but because the avila have a bigger offset so the inside of the wheels is much closer to the center than any other wheels i have, i put freeride on that deck because it's the only wheel that we have 2 sets of between me and my son

the board that broke last year was only 1/2 inch thick and narrower than this one at that particular point, this one is 3/4 inch, it's very stiff and it shouldn't brake, as you know i started laminating this year and so far no sign of structural failure but i still have some 3/4 inch plywood hanging around for some crazy project like the last one, the 8 wheels was mostly for $hits and giggles, that deck will probably be ridden with 2 trucks for the most part but i really wanted to experiment with a mount that would allow me to use original trucks and not be so high off the ground and this should work

it wasn't my goal or intention to try to absorb the bumps or have a smooth ride and i think lowrider was talking about something like this

you can buy that on this site if you have a $ 1000.00 to spare

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[Arclite]

That just looks like so much fun for dancing.

[carvingchef]

The original NADD

Not

A

Drop-through

Deck

I like how a drop-through deck rides but I hate having to remove the hangers in order to mount the trucks, those are an extra 5 minutes that I could spend doing nothing, call me lazy if you want, I got it from my son

so what we have here is "Not A Drop-through Deck" but more like a slide-through mount, that’s right, you just slide the trucks in the middle (you can have the wheels already on the trucks and it still works) line it up with the holes, add screws and nuts and you are ready to ride, of course it doesn’t work with every single truck make and model but this will work with Indy and Paris, the cutout on this board was made for Indy or Paris and Freeride wheels, slightly bigger wheels might work with the Indy but not the Paris

This is a replacement for Julian’s DLH that broke last year, similar specs 32” wheel base 9.5” wide but unlike the DLH that was a copy of the loaded dervish this was an original design, hence the name original NADD