BlueB Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Congrats Fin & the crew, new bindings look great! Just a few tech questions: 1) Would the bindings work with ski boots? My concern is the hard stops on the bails - would the bail go that tiny bit lower that's required for lower DIN lips of a ski boot? 2) Hard stops have also eliminated the option of flipping the blocks around for better fit to smaller boot sizes. Does that mean, with a boot size under 26, the blocks could end up sitting over the one of the 3 plate mounting bolts? 3) Is there any other parts interchangable with TD2s? For instance, could one use the TD3 blocks or new toe bail on the TD2s, or other way round? Keeping the cant plates uniform with TD2 is really neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 some others: 4) when will TD3 and Intecfinheel spare parts be coming in the website for sale? 5) how about snow and ice in the hole? makes the totalbinding interface heavier instead of lighter. and last but not least: products looks great, anxious to hear how they perform. Some one must have tested them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Do the new heel receivers fit the Td-2? I always wished they were steel on my TD-2s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 1. can you open bottles with the toe clip on these? 2. wheres the built in belgian waffle iron? 3. when can we expect the TD4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Glad you guys like what you see! Let me see if I can answer some questions: Yes, the TD3 will work with DIN standard ski boots. The small height difference does not effect the hard stops. You can still flip the sole blocks to get a smaller boot fit. However, you cannot move them all the way inward as there are now "channels" cut into the Base Plate to clear the Lugs. So even flipped you can only move them in so far. And, yes, you might end up covering one of the base plate to cant disk screws, just depends on your settings. We are getting a ton of question on comaptibility of parts of TD2 and TD3. Hold tight and I will come up with a list or chart to address this. Also hold tight on spare parts for the TD3 and Fin-Tecs. Plan to have up on the site in next few weeks. But parts will be available. Yes, you will gain some weight in the cavity in the Base Plate now. How much? Put about a palm full amount of power in your palm and weight it. That much ;) Sorry, remove the bottle opener due to California Law. TD4 launches next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 1) If you use the outer holes in the center disk to attach the binding to your board, are the screws still accessible without removing the base plate? It looks like the inner lip of the center hole in the base plate overhangs the center disk screws just a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 You can get to all the mount screws no matter which hole you use in the Center Disk. The opening in the Base Plate is big enough to get to ALL screw hole options on the Center Disk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCrobar Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Congratulations Fin, it really is impressive how you listen to the Bomber mob and keep the improvements coming. Did Bob have his hand in this version of the TD? My questions regard the heel bails on the standard model and the movement delivered by the thicker e-ring center disk combo: 1) Is the material used in the TD3 bails more resistant to bending than the TD2? 2) How much movement or deflection does the TD3 center disk and e-ring combination allow? IE-In 2003 Bob explained to me that the TD2 had the following movement: “the Elastomer Ring (No matter which durometer) under full compression to one side, only deflects .23 degrees from center. (.46 degrees inclusive.)” Thanks in advance for your time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Would it be possible to use the TD2 suspension kit (plus appropriately longer screws to account for the height of the full setup) with TD3s for super dooper suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Would it be possible to use the TD2 suspension kit (plus appropriately longer screws to account for the height of the full setup) with TD3s for super dooper suspension? you'd have to you really long screws I'd think. there's a point at which that becomes a bad idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Legth should be no problem due it is bout 5mm longer than without that. And if any concern then one can use more than 4 screws, if board has inserts with 2cm spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 There is a Bordy's quote, somewhere in the forums, where he says that he tried a stack of 3 (yes, 3 on top of each other) suspension kits! I will try a stack of 2 this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 how much movement and can we use the old suspension kit under it? Also can we upgrade TD2 with the newer erings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Also can we upgrade TD2 with the newer erings? If there will be TD3 spareparts coming up in the webstore you will need seperate TD3 urethanerings and TD3 centerdisks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglez Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 If there will be TD3 spareparts coming up in the webstore you will need seperate TD3 urethanerings and TD3 centerdisks. If I am not mistaken, I thought I read that the TD2 cant disks are exactly the same as the TD3's. So interchangable. But the screws might need to be longer. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 If I am not mistaken, I thought I read that the TD2 cant disks are exactly the same as the TD3's. So interchangable. But the screws might need to be longer.D. you are right: - cantdisks same - change erings (they are higher/thicker) - change the centerdisks (also higher then of course) - change the screws (must be longer) Than you will have a TD3 base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEJ Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Damn Fin, leave it to CA Congress to screw up a good thing. Can't wait to see them in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nils Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 does the front bail/back bail on non step in matches that of the TD2? It would be great news since my bails are custom built and unbreakable and i dont want to fight again into the process Jacques went through to make them... N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Have the base plate outer dimensions changed? i.e. was the outer ring of material strengthened at all to compensate for the material removed in the middle? Also; if the toe/heel blocks were made 4mm lower, it seems like it would be a good idea to put a 4mm shim under the TD3 steel heel Intec receiver (with the appropriate longer bolts) when putting them on a TD2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufty Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Motorcycles used to have a non-CA version with less restrictive exhausts. Can we get a non-CA TD3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 TD4 launches next week. Wait. What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Ace* Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I am glad I wasn't the only one who spotted that. For real? TD4 so soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedzilla Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 The batteries on your sarcasm detectors must be dead. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilv2 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi! Can you use the new hardend steel heel recivers from the td3 on the td2? Is it the same distance between the screws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 does the front bail/back bail on non step in matches that of the TD2? Yes, they are the same bails we have been using for over 15 years. Have the base plate outer dimensions changed? i.e. was the outer ring of material strengthened at all to compensate for the material removed in the middle? Yes, the base plate is slightly larger on the outside. However, the material removal on the inside does not really effect the strength of the Base Plate. Look at the mount pattern of the big M8 screws into the Cant Disk, everything "inside" of that pattern is somewhat isolated. Even the TD2 Base Plate had most of the material removed, we just left a thin amount for engraving. Also; if the toe/heel blocks were made 4mm lower, it seems like it would be a good idea to put a 4mm shim under the TD3 steel heel Intec receiver (with the appropriate longer bolts) when putting them on a TD2. You could but the height difference equals about a .5 degree lift/drop so not a lot. We are still deciding if this is enough to warrant a spacer as aretro fit item. Hi! Can you use the new hardend steel heel recivers from the td3 on the td2? Is it the same distance between the screws? Yes, same distance (50mm center to center) on the screws for the steel heel receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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