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hi PETROL longtime steelers fan here also--ever since the immaculate reception. off topic: did you see the recent MCDONALD'S commercial on tv for their new buttermilk biscuit thingy? the one where the employees dump a cooler of ice cubes over their restaurant manager. the MCDONALD'S commercial music kept haunting me for days when i heard it. last night when i was outside walking my dog (actually picking up his crap) i suddenly remembered where i heard that buttermilk biscuit tune--it was the original theme music (or at least the one that got replaced by the HANK WILLIAMS JR music) for monday night football. although i am 99.9% sure, can any old timer fans of monday night football confirm that for me?

hi MYKCUZ clearly some other factor(s) is(are) also involved since graduation rates have decreased for ALL children--black and white. your statement piqued my interest sufficiently to take a closer look at the numbers and i couldn’t quite get the same results as you. your data claims black children living with single parents increased from 30% to 70%. an increase of 133%. could you tell me the source of your data? different cutoff dates would skew the data somewhat so this is my time frame: there was data readily available through a quick google search for the period between 1960 to 2000 so being lazy I went with that. data compiled from the UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU claims black children living with single parents increased from 21.9% to 53.3%. an increase of 143% which is significantly lower than the 204% increase of white children living with single parents which increased from 7.1% to 21.6%. here is a cut and paste of the data: “The percentage of white children living with a single parent grew from 7.1% in 1960 to 21.6% in 2000, a three-fold increase. The corresponding black figures doubled, from 21.9% to 53.3%.” if you wish to verify and/or crunch the numbers yourself, here is the link: http://www.jointcenter.org/DB/factsheet/livarg.htm the CUT AND PASTE is from the sixth paragraph of the above link.

hi BIG CANUCK i only got to ride the board once in soft bumpy conditions so take this review under that advisement. i remember seeing a 2006/2007 non-carbon silberpfeil in one of your previous bomberonline postings so i chose that same board as a baseline for comparison against the 2011 carbon model. it is an apples to oranges comparison as the 2010/2011 carbon appears to a completely different board from your 2007 model and all previous silberpfeils for that matter. it is no longer a split tail bridged by a membrane like your old 2007 model. the 2011 is a solid tail. gone is the rounded tail from 2007 replaced by a square tail. aside from the fact that the board won’t fall over when you lean it against the wall it has several positive ride implications. as stated on the f2 website the tail really does lock into a turn more solidly at the end of the turn. i purposely took the same lines and rode both boards in a similar manner to try to identify any differences. also the conditions did not really deteriorate much so basically the conditions were the same when i rode both boards. in situations where the 2007 model washed out at the tail the 2011 model tracked powerfully yet still released predictably into the next turn. this was probably due to 2 offsetting conditions. the extra edge holding capabilities of the carbon fibre probably enabled the tail of the 2011 to track while the 2007 skidded. the fact that the 2011 has 6mm of taper (236/229) whereas the 2007 has zero taper (236/236) probably allowed the 2011 to release the edge (and hence finish the turn) more predictably. it appears the intent of the taper of the 2011 was to offset the loss of the split tail (and modulating connective membrane) of the 2007 model. the 2011 has more edge hold (especially in the second half of the turn) yet didn’t lock you into a turn so tightly that you had trouble exiting. i am not sure how the new vario camber of the 2011 plays into it but i suspect it was what allowed the tail to lock in so positively in the second half of the turn. i found this to be a great feature for a person who favours narrow boards with the requisite high binding angles (63/60 for me.) when I bend my legs my butt defaults to the back seat instead of to the side like a lower binding angle rider. surprisingly, the 2011 carbon does NOT punish you for getting into the back seat. you are actually rewarded with a boost of speed and takes JET TURNING (rocking back at the end of the turn) to new levels. does vario camber mean that the camber is tail loaded at this section of the board? normally i don’t believe in tail riding (unless it is a soft nosed burton factory prime) but i had a blast accelerating off the 2011 carbon’s tail—kinda nice to be starting your turn at the same rate as the person beside you and then pulling away from them in the second half of the turn. the only downside is that you have to work extra hard to get back to the front of the board to start the next turn—at the bottom of the chairlift it felt like someone poked me just below the sternum about a hundred times lol. gotta start doing more situps and ab crunches! also gone is the conshox style butterfly so it would appear that the metal underneath the butterfly was also removed? since the edgehold seems to have increased i assume the carbon fibre layup more than compensated for the absence of metal in the 2011 carbon version. however, i only tested the edgehold in soft snow but the 2011 had more edgehold relative to the 2007 so i assume the same will hold true had i tested both in icy conditions. another interesting change is the 2011 nose seems stiffer than the old 2007 nose yet initiates easier. maybe i am confusing easier with earlier since the nose shape is also different. the new 2011 nose is smaller (almost hammerhead-ish.) the edge comes up higher (closer to the tip) than the old longer traditionally shaped f2 nose of the 2007 model—hence it engages the turn sooner? because the 2011 nose is stiffer it can be ridden old school style by diving toward the nose to start the turn. paradoxically i was still able to ride it centred and initiate the turn similarly to my 2010 flc variable sidecut board. is this due to the vario camber? the nose shape? a combination of both or some other factor? doesn’t make sense and i don’t know how to explain it but i like it. from your previous posts you mentioned favouring a fairly wide stance. you will be happy to know the the 2011 carbon has the insert packs set about three quarters of an inch further apart. personally i favour narrow stances. i can ride the 2007 model with as narrow as an 18.00 inch stance but with the 2011 carbon model i couldn’t make it work using a stance width narrower than 18.75 inches. unlike most of the bomberonline membership i believe the factory should dictate your stance not you. if you need a narrower or wider stance get a board that is designed for your preferred stance width. hence i ride my burton ultraprime with the 16 inch REFERENCE stance and suffer with the constricted back leg. otherwise i would have to stop riding the ultraprime and that ain’t happening lol. interestingly, the inserts are about the same distance from the tail (measured from the middle of the rounded 2007 tail and the flat part of the 2011 square tail.) this means that the 2011 front insert pack is moved quite far forward relative to the 2007. this would mean that the 2011 should be (and is) a quicker turning board. what is strange is the 2011 locks into turns more deeply and powerfully and also gives more pop off the tail which is unexpected since the inserts are further forward than on the old 2007. can’t quite figure that one out. probably a combination of the 2011’s stiffer tail or lack of split tail. and again i wonder if the new vario camber has anything to do with it? is the camber nose loaded at this section of the board? another odd thing is that the effective edge is listed as 1555mm on both models. i would have expected the 2011 to have the greater effective edge due to the new smaller nose of the 2011 and also the lack of a rounded tail of the 2007 despite both having the same overall 172 cm length. either it’s a typo on the f2 website or i am missing something—maybe the vario camber requires you to measure effective edge differently? image of both 2007 and 2011 standing side by side: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=25507&stc=1&d=1296176530 look carefully at the nose shape (and the tail) and decide for yourself. the 2007 is the gray one on the far left and the 2011 carbon is the black one right next to it. finally the 2011 carbon is made in germany while the 2007 was made in Austria. to my untrained eye the craftsmanship and build quality of the 2011 looks significantly higher than the 2007. since this is bomberonline (simultaneously the biggest source of information (for example KENT SMITH, BUELL, BOBDEA) and misinformation (for example TENORMAN)) i can post any speculative and rampant rumour i want to. i.e. the 2011 carbon silberpfeil looks more like a VIRUS than an f2. that’s funny because i remember a post by FRANK DIETZEL/VIRUS on bomberonline about 10 years ago that he made some split tail prototypes with rubber end pieces in the space between the split tails. he claimed it gave a smoother edge change and something about finetuning(?) the flex. if i recall correctly i think his exact words were “keep the perfect flex of the boards” whatever that meant or maybe i just remembered it wrong. later i see f2 producing split tail silberpfeils with membranes between the split tails. coincidence or copycat-ing by f2? now about 10 years later, the suddenly gorgeous looking (and even better riding) “made in germany” f2 carbon silberpfeils with a similar aesthetic appeal rivaling some of the VIRUS snowboards. again--coincidence or copycat-ing by f2? conclusion: this is the only snowboard i have ever bought where i truly felt that i drastically underpaid. that’s saying a lot when you consider what a tightwad i am. i like to think of the f2 carbon silberpfeil as a poor man’s VIRUS snowboard lol.

hi BIG CANUCK sorry for the delayed response. i had to deal with a near flood last week. let's just say it would have been cheaper if i just hired a plumber in the first place lol. i wasn't in burnaby much in the first half of january so i had to delay shipment until late january. i just got the tracking numbers and the parcel should reach my door on the 26th. hopefully i will have a review for you before the end of the month. touch base with you again at the end of the month. doug

hi DIVEBOMBER do you mean the KRYPTONS or the later revamped PROTONS. if it is the older model kryptons i would test them out before buying them. i remember a warning posted on bomberonline about 10 years ago by former bomberonline member CMC. he said the ankle buckle rubbing with the buckle immediately above drastically inhibited the flex. you said you need the boot to flex freely--correct? i think CMC referred to them as the JOEY boot.

hi PAN thanks for the reply. guess that counts me out. i was under the impression it was just beer league racing for old guys (i'm in my mid fifties.) good luck with your program.

hi PAN i don’t want to join the CSF and end up on their mailing list—and a few other reasons that i don’t wish to discuss publicly but will discuss privately with you if you want. therefore i will show up next tuesday, january 11th with the $45 dollar training fee to just audit the session but not officially join it. i will only be staying about 20 or 30 minutes and will stay out of the way of the kids actually trying to learn something. basically i was just curious as to what your program entailed. hopefully you can waive the CSF membership requirement for this one time only since i have no intention of entering any snowboard competitions. alternatively i can book a 1 hour private lesson with you through the ski school if the CSF prerequisites can’t be waived. the only problem with the ski school option is that you personally only see a samll portion of the 100 dollar per hour fee that the ski school would bill me. correct? sorry if i may be wasting your time but i thought it was like the mt. seymour TNT gate bashing training sessions that i attended for about 3 or 4 consecutive years (1997-2000) on a drop in basis without joining the CSF. i noticed mt. seymour links on your website so if you need a reference ANDY BONIFACE who was the snowboard director at seymour for 16 years from 1991-2007 should remember me and i believe he is still tight with the mount seymour crew. in addition to the TNT gate bashing sessions i had also booked some private lessons with ANDY and his ski school staff for some carving “tuneup” lessons to shake some bad habits i had developed. although ANDY is always on softboots he is an excellent hardbooter. unfortunately, i have been persona non grata at seymour since the 2000 season when i got into an altercation with a hardboot hating ski patroller. the seymour owner (EDDY WOOD) apologized to me but the ski patroller refused. consequently i have never set foot there again. so if you are actually doing the gates portion at seymour instead of grouse then i am out of luck-- i have the memory of an elephant and i never forget lol. hopefully i can audit the grouse training session for the 45 dollar training fee otherwise i would have to book the 1 hour private lesson concurrently to avoid getting you into trouble with the CSF. i believe your wednesday and friday sessions with the snow school are not closed runs with gates but just ordinary ski lessons out in the crowded slopes--correct? i’ll email you my cellphone number. please do NOT put me on any mailing lists. thanks

hi GORD sorry about your new board. maybe you should think it through some more before making an irreversible repair attempt. i’ve carefully scrutinized your photos and it looks like one of the better options is also one of the easiest, cheapest and least skill intensive. your gouge isn’t a smooth clean slash but more like a messy jagged edged abrasion. when you prep the area for the patch you actually need to enlarge it by cutting away the messy jagged uneven parts and making a long symmetrical shape to ease the job of cutting out the matching repair patch. FLEAMAN’s coreshot is near the middle of his board and well away from the edge. so what he did was probably the best job possible. after he enlarged his irregular shaped coreshot into a roughly 2 by 2 inch square area symmetrical shape his patch was still very far from the edge. however, you are dangerously close to the edge after you cut away the jagged parts so you will have to work very carefully to ensure the edge is fully supported. because of the location of your gouge i think you are better off just dripping some epoxy into your UNALTERED gouge. the jagged parts will give the epoxy something to grab onto so you will probably end up with a better bond than if you tried to smooth it out and forcing the epoxy plug to span the entire 2 mm width of the gouge instead of 2mm less the width of the jagged part(s.) obviously use the best epoxy you can but i’ve made similar repairs just using ordinary JB WELD from the hardware store. another advantage of JB WELD is it is black coloured and will match the colour of the existing base. most reasonably priced ptex patches are about the same quality as extruded ptex so they won’t absorb much wax anyway. so the fact that your epoxy will absorb zero wax pales in comparison. your 4inch by 2 mm slash only yields about 200 square mm of surface area that will be epoxy instead of ptex—i doubt you will notice any loss of speed or ride quality. even if you did cut out a patch i doubt that you could work so precisely that you had no gaps to fill and blend in with epoxy after fitting in your probably not so exact fitting patch. assuming you are moderately skilled i doubt you could work to any tighter tolerance than 1mm per side anyway. The smallest your patch could be is probably 4inches by 4 mm (again assuming you are very skilled and you only enlarged the gouge at most 1 mm on each edge. therefore after you fit your patch you will still have a small gap on each side of the patch of about 1 mm so your total surface area of bare epoxy will still be about 200 square mm (4 inch long patch with a gap of 1mm on each side and I am ignoring the fact that you will probably have a small gap at both endpoints that will probably span the entire 4 mm width of the patch.) at least doing what i suggested doesn’t require enlarging the existing gouge to accept a symmetrically shaped patch. after test riding your epoxy repaired board, you can still choose to redo the repair with a proper ptex patch because you felt compromised by the fact that only 200 square mm of your ENTIRE running surface won’t absorb wax.. however, you need to ensure that you do a very precise patch job otherwise your edge may not be 100% supported. as RACE CARVER suggested try to get the more expensive sintered ptex sheets than the cheaper extruded ptex sheets most repair shops sell. like he says they will be as hard (abrasion resistant) as the original base material. (however, no ptex is harder or stronger or more supportive than properly cured epoxy lol.) oh one final advantage of epoxy (or disadvantage of ptex.) epoxy will basically bond to anything. ptex bonds to ptex and …..well i can’t think of anything else besides ptex unless you are a pro shop with all the expensive specialized tools.

question: why am i riding old gear? answer: because i enjoy it. duh! so true. it’s a tough choice. both have 2 outcomes (1 good and 1 bad.) if you choose a new snowboard the result can either be your dream board (incredible edge hold, handles various snow conditions (ice, crud, powder, chop etc.)) without major changes in your riding technique OR………..it can be the most chattery, torsionally limp, edgeless and unresponsive piece of crap on the planet. if you choose a new woman, she can turn out to be your unconditionally loving soulmate OR……….she can morph into a nagging tormenting bitch. there is clearly no easy answer to the woman/snowboard debate. oh wait! i just remembered why snowboards are way better than women. SNOWBOARDS DON’T TALK BACK!

hi PAN sorry for the delayed response but have been busy during the holidays and have only been to grouse once since december 20th. however, i will make it a point of being there either next tuesday or friday to at least check out a session. i assume this can be drop in and that you don't have to commit for an extended period. i'm an old guy so i probably won't fit in well if the others are all young people lol. what is the drop in training fee as i am sure others will be interested in this information as well? last year, there was a Grouse passholder named GORDON STEAD who asked RUWI and i if we knew any hardboot instructors on Grouse. at that time we didn't (except for BLUEB at cypress) but since you are now here should i pass along your email address? btw RUWI is an instructor at Grouse but was away on a month long vacation in southeast asia--he should be back next week.

hi DONEK thank you for your informative reply but i already bought the carbon silberpfeil a few hours after my previous post. if for any reason the carbon silberpfeil doesn’t pan out i will keep your offer in mind for next season as it will probably take me the rest of this season to properly evaluate the new board—after all BLUEB will probably end up borrowing it for at least a month lol. the only caveat i have with a DONEK custom is: are you sure you can do it for your quoted price? i will only consider it if the core is shaped from scratch and not a regular core that is simply chopped down to size. the desired narrow waist will be attained but then the flex would have been calibrated at the previously wider dimensions so the resulting chopped down narrow waisted board ends up being insufficiently stiff. does your price include building the core from the ground up or is it just a modified (chopped down) regular width core? i assume it would be a LOT cheaper to make a new narrow core to the requisite thickness rather than adding extra carbon fibre to regain the stiffness lost from chopping down a wider core.

don't worry BORIS. DAVE MORGAN is used to being annoyed by my feeble attempts at humour. you should see my previous emails to him asking for info about new f2 products--you would be cringing and shielding your eyes lol. later going to sleep now.

hi PAN were you there sunday night? i saw a hardbooter in a green jacket, black pants, f2 step in bindings, blonde hair, moustache, black square tail snowboard (couldn't see the brand because too much snow was sticking to the topsheet) and not wearing a helmet. was that you? i was the guy with all the duct tape on my gloves. if that wasn't enough to identify me i was on a burton alp board, burton raceplate bindings and most likely burton fire or furnace boots as i was comparing both boots that day. i won't be going to grouse again until after xmas but will definitely check out one of your sessions. will this be like the TNT (TUESDAY NIGHT TRAINING) gate bashing sessions up at mount seymour back in the late 1990's. i think it was 2 hours of gate bashing for a nominal training fee of about 20 bucks that included one free apres beer. if you see an old guy with lots of duct tape (100% of the time) riding burton boards and bindings (99%) of the time just come up and say hello. later doug

this was the GERMAN seller that does NOT ship to canada. http://cgi.ebay.de/F2-SILBERPFEIL-CARBON-MODEL-2011-172-CM-F2-PAD-/200554862107?pt=Sport_Snowboarding_Snowboards&hash=item2eb200561b didn't want to imply that BORIS' email was to BLUE TOMATO which is a great company and i have ordered from them before.

hi D.ROE thanks for posting the info about the 16% avoidable VAT. that was just the info i was looking for. i asked my friend BORIS (BLUEB) who has a lot of experience dealing with european companies to find out what the avoidable VAT was for a canadian shipping destination. he emailed the GERMAN seller last week and got the reply that they didn’t ship to canada so we didn’t investigate further. $833 x 1.075 (cdn duty from this website: http://betterdollar.com/?s=snowboards) x 1.12 (hst) gives a total landed cost of about $1003 us or cdn assuming us/cdn is still close to par. the YYZ fob toronto price of ($899 list + 45 shipping) x 1.12 (hst) gives a total landed cost of about $1057. gee that price seems reasonable especially if the us/cdn exchange ratio was higher before--i guess DAVE MORGAN wasn’t the crook i thought he was. hi COREY DYCK what you are saying is true. it’s just that i’ve always liked the ride of a silberpfeil and have agreed with every version of the board that i own despite the fact that they are getting wider and wider each year. they are usually one of the narrowest if not the narrowest hardboot snowboard (not skwal) on the market. the custom board makers appear to be focusing on wider waisted metal boards—i’m looking for narrower waisted non-metal boards. since my desired narrow non-metal board probably requires a departure from the normal routine and possibly a new mold it will probably cost a lot more than the average price of a custom board. money issue aside, i am happy with the product for now so until the f2 silberpfeil evolves to a dimension/shape/construction that no longer suits me i will consider getting a custom builder to knock off a copy of a 17 inch waisted 1999 silberpfeil for me. until then i will remain a loyal f2 customer. i wasn’t as concerned about the price as i was the lack of reviews on the carbon silberpfeil. my biggest fear was the lack of reviews might indicate a lack of positive user feedback. i wonder how well it performs? according to the website the dimensions are the same as the old non carbon silberpfeils—is the only difference being the carbon fibre? no new tech/construction (decambered nose, non-radial sidecut etc) or is there? obviously the edgehold will be improved by the carbon fibre but to what degree? same as titanal boards or more or less? is the carbon fibre laid up to enhance dampness or snap or did they somehow figure out a way to get the best of both worlds? there seems to be no info at all so is the only way to find out is to buy one and try it out? yikes i just realized i made a fool of myself by trying to falsely accuse DAVE MORGAN of price gouging. sh*t i better order the board from him before he sees this post and sues me for libel.

hi MACIEK don't worry about new equipment yet. the important thing is that you are back. i remember from your posts on bomberonline about 10 years ago that you had problems with your boot flexing and popping out of the TD bindings. you may find that upgrading the bindings first to TD3 before upgrading the boots might be something to keep in mind as you may be able to continue using your old boots. if i recall correctly you used raichle 223 boots with the stiff race tongues? if so that's a fairly stiff 4 buckle boot that's stiff comparable to today's boots--only thing markedly better would be the liners but those are easily replaced. hope to read more of your informative and funny posts. please keep in mind that KENT SMITH knows his stuff but can appear gruff at times. i think i learned more from his posts than any other single bomberonline member and am glad both of you guys still post here.

hi BIG CANUCK did you ever find out anything about these since last spring? as of today, the little i found on the european forums were basically useless after the butchered english translation. i am leery about pulling the trigger on one until i get more info. factoring in shipping and the 12% hst it's going to be close to 1100 bucks and it's not even a raceboard! wtf? any info you might have would be appreciated. (i am reluctant to email ANDREA at YYZ because everytime i do i end up spending money lol.)

i believe that was the first year prior's were commercially available on a mass scale. it was also the first year you could buy them at northshore ski and sail in north van. prior (pun intended) to that priors were made to order on a small scale in chris' garage before he set up a proper large scale manufacturing facility at the first location near the dog pound in north van. CHRIS HOUGHTON is correct, priors originally had white topsheets. the first one i saw was 3 years older than CHRIS HOUGHTON'S which was a 1993 freestyle board owned by mt. seymour snowrat and part time lifty (while working on his masters in chemistry at SFU) GEOFF WINTERS. i have been mistaken before in the past so if there are any discrepancies go with CHRIS HOUGHTON'S information. based on his previous posts this guy knows his stuff. CHRIS if you are reading this could you please confirm for BORIS that you posted on bomberonline about 10 years ago that your favorite board was the nidecker extreme 169cm? btw BORIS it was may 20th not may 18th as the closing date for cypress in 1998--sorry memory is slipping in my old age.

my thoughts exactly. on second thought if you wanted a suspension system the virus suspension system/dampening plates appear to be fairly cheap. the cost of the cheap virus suspension plus the cost of the relatively expensive virus bindings appear reasonable compared to cheaper priced f2 bindings with the expensive s-flex. assuming it's not an apples to oranges comparison.

hi vancouver crew just responded to BORIS' email for skating tomorrow. had a bad crash last saturday june 12th at the vernon dh race and hurt my shoulder and neck. won't be able to skate tomorrow but will probably come out later for brunch/lunch/coffee. will be driving my car as it is too painful to take the bus like the responsible green-minded citizen i usually am. here are some photos that i took when sidelined on sunday june 13th: http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh182/tenorman_bucket/vernon2010/ later doug p.s. stopped by UPZ while visiting in OLIVER and bought a whole bunch of spare boot parts--you guys are welcome to whatever you need for repairs.

hi BORA20 i was looking for some binding manuals when i stumbled upon this pic of the above mentioned person from the 1999/2000 sunpeaks brochure. there was a much better pic from i think the 1997 or 1998 brochure that showed her in a fully laid out eurocarve that would have put JACQUES and PATRICE to shame. her trident rat trap bindings were clearly visible in that pic. i'll look for that pic when i have more time next month.

hi CARVINGMONTANA sorry for the delayed response but have been busy lately. it looks like you have the 1998 model. hopefully the instruction manual will answer any further questions you may have. if not then post them on THIS thread and i’ll check it again in may when i have more time. in you are in a hurry for more info, you may wish to contact CHRIS PRIOR for help as one of his cronies (DECLAN? or PADRAIG? or some other strange sounding IRISH name) was the head honcho at TRIDENT.)

hi SURF QUEBEC your statement makes no sense in vancouver--the skirts are short 365 days a year!

hi JAKE W. and KING CRIMSON i think you two are both correct but are butting heads because one is talking about stiff narrow boards with high binding angles while the other is talking about wider boards at lower angles? usually the narrow board, high angles guys (myself included) get their stiffness from the boot and the flex from the binding. fortunately, i have burton FURNACE boots (stiff like burton FIRES with the added stiffness of a one piece sole) so i don't have to rely on ski boots. when my FURNACES give out either my upz rc10 (with grey tongues) or FIRES will probably be a good substitute. probably if JAKE W. had a pair of FURNACE snowboard boots he would like them also. laterally stiff ski boots probably would be of benefit to people riding old school boards (stiff and narrow) with high (60plus) binding angles. probably also benefiting people who board more with their hips than their feet. usually guys need a little bit of flex or you end up breaking the least stiffest/strongest link in the system be it the board, bindings, boot or even worse-part of your body. most of the previous posters with stiff boots have relied on flexier bindings but here's an interesting case of using softer/flexier boots with stiffer bindings. below is a pic from an old 15 year old SNOWBOARD CANADA magazine showing JASEY JAY ANDERSON riding a stiff narrow burton raceboard mounted with BOMBER BINDINGS and wearing soft (his definition of "soft") LANGE X08 ski boots. can anyone chime in about the X08 boots? i am only familiar with the X09 series as i had the X09 REGULAR model boots which i found way too stiff for snowboarding. the stiffest LANGES (I think) at the time was the X09 RACE model which had the same plastic as mine but had a plastic spoiler at the back (to increase stiffness?) were the X08 boots a lot softer? in the text accompanying the photo, mr. ANDERSON claimed he got his flex from his relatively soft LANGE X08 ski boots. guess he meant soft relative to the stiff BOMBER BINDINGS and stiff narrow custom race stock BURTON factory prime.

using the book's photos on bomberonline would be a violation of copyright because bomberonline is a commercial site. however, MR. LEMASTER was kind enough to send me watermarked versions of the photos for use on this thread: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28038