Duke Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I don't mean to revive a thread that seemed to rub some nerves raw....but did anyone buy one of these and ride it last season? I would love to hear a review from someone that bought one of their boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) I have bought a 175 wide, build on the Sputnik camber but 21 cm wide. Very nice board so well built and so fun in carving. The only problem is that as said , is too stiff. So in normal conditions works well but on ice has some problems. I have some ride on the Sputnik wide ad has the same behaviour but works better because is softer. The 169 FC is a very versatile an everyday free carving board The 173-2 as the same behaviour with some more cm of edge The Bulat 161 and 168 are average carving wide boards, I'm not on Extreme Carving but who rides the EC technique said that are carving boards and not extreme carving boards The 177 race is a nice race board that can be used also for free carving Edited May 15, 2015 by jacopodotti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I have bought a 175 wide, build on the Sputnik camber but 21 cm wide. Very nice board so well built and so fun in carving. The only problem is that as said , is too stiff. So in normal conditions works well but on ice has some problems. I have some ride on the Sputnik wide ad has the same behaviour but works better because is softer. The 169 FC is a very versatile an everyday free carving board The 173-2 as the same behaviour with some more cm of edge The Bulat 161 and 168 are average carving wide boards, I'm not on Extreme Carving but who rides the EC technique said that are carving boards and not extreme carving boards The 177 race is a nice race board that can be used also for free carving Thanks Joco. Good input and much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) The normal narrow Sputnik is a super nice board. If the core thickness is the same on the wide one, I can see how it would be a bit too stiff... What is a carving vs extreme carving board??? I was able to EC just about any board I've ridden, providing it wasn't way over or under my weight. Bulats performed really well in EC department. Duke, you are still learning alpine, right? I'd really recommend their SL in suitable length and weight range. They are super versatile. With weight range, rather make error on too soft side. Edited May 16, 2015 by BlueB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 What is a carving vs extreme carving board??? I was able to EC just about any board I've ridden, providing it wasn't way over or under my weight. anyone have that link to Bordy's "It's not the board..." video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The normal narrow Sputnik is a super nice board. If the core thickness is the same on the wide one, I can see how it would be a bit too stiff... What is a carving vs extreme carving board??? I was able to EC just about any board I've ridden, providing it wasn't way over or under my weight. Bulats performed really well in EC department. Duke, you are still learning alpine, right? I'd really recommend their SL in suitable length and weight range. They are super versatile. With weight range, rather make error on too soft side. Thanks. I emailed them and was told the 168 FC would be a good beginner board. It was not on the list of boards you reviewed (probably because it is a starter board). Still looking around. Plenty of time before the snow flies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The normal narrow Sputnik is a super nice board. If the core thickness is the same on the wide one, I can see how it would be a bit too stiff... My 175 wide fiberglass is too stiff not the Sputnik Wide Kevlar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 What is a carving vs extreme carving board??? I was able to EC just about any board I've ridden, providing it wasn't way over or under my weight. Bulats performed really well in EC department. As said I'm not an ECier, I'm too tall fat and lazy for it. People said that the difference is that in correct EC technique the body is not sliding on snow , it is few cm above. People said that in normal conditions it carves well but in difficoult conditions it has some problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Thanks. I emailed them and was told the 168 FC would be a good beginner board. It was not on the list of boards you reviewed (probably because it is a starter board). Still looking around. Plenty of time before the snow flies. The 168 FC is 16 cm wide, how it could be a biginner board? Maybe the 164 FC or the 169FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The 168 FC is 16 cm wide, how it could be a biginner board? Maybe the 164 FC or the 169FC. I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer your question Joco. it is the info they gave me. I wear UPZ 25.5s and don't think 16cm will bother me too much though.....but I've never been on a skinny board so I may change my mind on day one. ?? One thing this season did do for me is to get me used to an alpine stance. In fact, I rotated my back foot considerably on my soft setup. the 169 FC does have more camber and the 168FC seems to have very little. I just told them that this is my first alpine season and such was their recommendation. This is the info from their site on the 168FC: The most pleasant, comfortable and undemanding model in the lineup. This snowboard will bring you the joy of carving, even if you have no time and energy for training, but only couple of weekend for good time with friends and family. Board would just carry you, wherever you wish. It initiates the turn, holds the trajectory and changes the edge. You don’t need a technique, don’t need fitness — just use the “Force”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I has been invited to this discuss about our boards. 168FC & 172FC is very comfortable for ride. Minimal actions for initial turn. Very stable. Very easy finish turn. Both boards use sport camber (168GS & 172GS) = have rockers. "Narrow" is not a problem for this sheaf between shape & camber. By last season we sold a lot of 168FC (172FC was started in March, 2015) and all customers notice about very easy initial turn and board stable. This is the cause why it is affordale for a novice if his/her boots let use this board. Edited May 16, 2015 by Alexey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Ciao Alexey, I remember that you told me that the 168 FC is one of your favourite board but in my opinion it could be great for somebody who is already on a carving board. A board so narrow initiates so easy to carve but is also so unstable. I have huge feet so I didn't have a ride on it. The 169 FC, that it is still too narrow for me, is a great board that gives a lot of fun, a real allround board quick and tight turns and also great on medium speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 169FC have 19.2cm waist = wide board. Most of freecarver customers looking for 17-18.5cm waist boards at size 165-175cm For big foot guys we have Bulat 168 with 22.1 waist. Also we can produce this board by sport camber (168GS). As result initial turn will start more fast and more easy. p.s. 169FC is good but the board have not a soul. Nevertheless Italinan guys like this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexey Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 We has this model before but in the March we rebuilded shape & camber. Also next model has been rebuilded: 175fc, 176fc, 177fc, 180fc (new shape and for 175fc new camber). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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