GeoffV Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Ok I can't believe no one has posted about this movie yet. Who's seen it? Thoughts? I just saw it in iMax 3-D last night I'll I can say is :eek:wow most amazing movie experience ever for me The technology is mind boggling. And to think it took them 5 years to make this movie The CGI technology they used is already dated I can't imagine what we'll be seeing in the movies in the next 3-5 years for technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Not many movies that I would go back to see again, a week later, but that is one of them. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Eh. It was a good popcorn flick. I need to have a considerably more involving story and characters to consider a movie great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Agreed. The plot was totally "Pocahontas in Space". But it did hold my attention for nearly 3 hours, and that alone is impressive. If we really had hanging mountains like that on Earth, I'd totally go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Seen it twice. Might see it again. I wish I had 3d around here... I agree that this is not a story/script centric film, but one can't deny that James Cameron is a masterful storyteller, and the fact that you forget you're watching a completely animated scene is just plain cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Saw it opening weekend in a regular theatre. I want to go back and see it in Imax. Lame plot, but WOW awesome use of a rehashed concept :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Agreed. The plot was totally "Pocahontas in Space". But it did hold my attention for nearly 3 hours, and that alone is impressive.If we really had hanging mountains like that on Earth, I'd totally go there. yeah, I'm sick of the basic plotline of white american goes to far off land, goes native but the natives are too dumb to lead themselves so sympathetic white man has to lead them against the his own people while proving his loyalty to the culture he is now the savior of. it's the classic whiteboy superiority complex, with a los angeles liberal twist. you know, like, dances with wolves or any movie that has a white person as the central character that takes place in the inner city. say a school teacher trying to make a difference in south central. heard it called "white messiah fable" and other things. it's basically a way to jerk off both conservative american men and more sensitive center left democrat types. it does look really good but I prefer animation that does not take pains to look realistic, kills the art factor to me. that's just me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 yeah, I'm sick of the basic plotline of white american goes to far off land, goes native but the natives are too dumb to lead themselves so sympathetic white man has to lead them against the his own people while proving his loyalty to the culture he is now the savior of. it's the classic whiteboy superiority complex, with a los angeles liberal twist. you know, like, dances with wolves or any movie that has a white person as the central character that takes place in the inner city. say a school teacher trying to make a difference in south central. heard it called "white messiah fable" and other things. it's basically a way to jerk off both conservative american men and more sensitive center left democrat types. it does look really good but I prefer animation that does not take pains to look realistic, kills the art factor to me. that's just me though. Like I said, story/script is so-so. But you still should see it. The way Cameron holds your attention, and makes you feel for the characters is incredible. He is truly a master of cinematography, and that cannot be denied. Watch it, before it leves the theatres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 saw it in Colorado, beside my nice trip to wonderful CO I got to pay only 7.50$ for the movie. In NYC it's 12.50$. :) was so happy that was planing see it twice but riding took over. I had fun watching it. It's well done movie and story, well simple but still keeping you on the seat for 3 h. Effects - 1st class. Def. gotta see it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 LA prices $19 for IMAX 3D here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Like I said, story/script is so-so. But you still should see it. The way Cameron holds your attention, and makes you feel for the characters is incredible. He is truly a master of cinematography, and that cannot be denied.Watch it, before it leves the theatres. I have seen it, it's good but the last hour I rolled my eyes at least five times. very predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yes the plot was pretty basic, but honestly the 3D and CGI stuff was so impressive that I wasn't really focused on the plot. My first post was more in reference to the special affects used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 The special effects were pretty neat. I liked that they were relatively subtle instead of the usual "Check out what we can do, isn't it awesome?!?" that most Hollywood movies use. I tended to forget that it was 3D with CG. The story was a bit soft, but still good if you go in expecting a movie targetted at 14 year-old boys. I fell asleep for a little bit in the middle (good day of riding beforehand!), that made it more interesting as I missed some key stuff that made later parts more of a surprise. It reminded me a lot of Battle For Terra, an animated movie that came out a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 But it did hold my attention for nearly 3 hours, and that alone is impressive. Some kid behind me didn't have that same oppinion. After the second hour he said outloud, "How long is this f@%$ing movie?". The special effects and cgi was the best I've seen, buy you're right about the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I thought the first half an hour to 45 minutes were pretty lameo. It was very bad-scifi-esque, kinda the low-budget sort of camerawork and acting. It did get more interesting thought. Thought it should have ended about 3 times though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Saw it twice. I'm wondering if the Imax theater makes it a lot better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjvircks Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I was impressed by the facial CGI overlays. I watched the movie (3D) with a deaf guy who reads lips. He says that even though the faces were CGI the lips/mouth/tongue were 'real' for the characters. I agree that the plotline was complete formula. I described it to others as Dances With Wolves with rocket launchers. I continue to get a bit of a rise from the Vatican's responses to the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryw Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Enjoyed the teck of the film. And yeah, the story was lame, but I was still captivated for the entire flick. Saw it in the imax 3d, and thought it was amazing. Curious to see it in a typical theater and contrast and compare..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dialog was typically bad in the way James Cameron's dialog is always terrible. Story was predictable. The "nature hippies good; evil greedy corporation bad" thing was annoying, as was the "white man rescues primitive tribe yet again" thing. But: He made me care about the characters, I was fully immersed in the world, and, most importantly to me, James Cameron plays it straight. By that, I mean he is confident enough in his storytelling/moviemaking abilities that he never winks at the camera by throwing in fart jokes, crappy one-liners, gratuitous T&A shots, overdone variable-speed camera crap, or anything sucktacular like that. Even when he has characters say one-liners they fit the character and the story at the time. He never does any obnoxious "gee whiz that was awesome/hilarious/boobs" in a way that pulls you out of the movie, even though there are a lot of "holy crap that was awesome" moments in there. Gotta admire the guy for sticking with a coherent vision and really trying to make a great movie instead of phoning it in, even if he can't write exposition to save his life. Michael Bay and George Lucas, I'm looking at you. Oh, and the effects were unbelievable - it made me totally embarassed about all the CG work I've ever done. All the stuff I've done so far is child's play. But Robert Zemeckis, with his "performance capture" atrocities (Beowulf, Polar Express), should just give up now, and never make another movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Dialog was typically bad in the way James Cameron's dialog is always terrible.But: He made me care about the characters, I was fully immersed in the world, and, most importantly to me, James Cameron plays it straight. By that, I mean he is confident enough in his storytelling/moviemaking abilities that he never winks at the camera by throwing in fart jokes, crappy one-liners, gratuitous T&A shots, overdone variable-speed camera crap, or anything sucktacular like that. Even when he has characters say one-liners they fit the character and the story at the time. He never does any obnoxious "gee whiz that was awesome/hilarious/boobs" in a way that pulls you out of the movie, even though there are a lot of "holy crap that was awesome" moments in there. Gotta admire the guy for sticking with a coherent vision and really trying to make a great movie instead of phoning it in, even if he can't write exposition to save his life. Michael Bay and George Lucas, I'm looking at you.. I completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 But Robert Zemeckis, with his "performance capture" atrocities (Beowulf, Polar Express), should just give up now, and never make another movie. I am so glad someone says this. I'm still smarting from that one I WANT a good live action or animated version of beowulf. as much as it was painful visually it was easier for me to watch than avatar even if does look amazing because I like the story in beowulf better. In the end I guess that's what bothers me about avatar, James Cameron is no Stanley Kubrick and there's so little after the effects. People have compared this to 2001 and so on but I value movies as whole. especially after the 90 minute mark it better be really effin' good. here's animation link though http://www.vimeo.com/7809605 enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Oh, and the effects were unbelievable - it made me totally embarassed about all the CG work I've ever done. All the stuff I've done so far is child's play. But Robert Zemeckis, with his "performance capture" atrocities (Beowulf, Polar Express), should just give up now, and never make another movie. Anyone ever see the LOR movie in the seventies. Might have been one of the first movies to try that technique. It was so bad that, I'm sure it's why it took so long to make another LOR (I'm glad they waited until it could be done well). BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C5 Golfer Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Avatar great movie-- but I saw it as a remake of Dances with Wolves and Rambo III merged together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 couldn't handle the grammys so left my wife home and went to Avatar. Pretty cool for the most part. A little too much screeching and hissing at times. I wished they had developed a little more unique culture for the Navi, instead of super human blue Indians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeW Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Well, for what it is worth, I watched it FIVE times already. Three in normal movie theatre, one with Open Captioned (for those who do not know me, I'm hard of hearing/Deaf), and one with 3-D. I might go watch it again this weekend at IMAX with 3-D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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