b0ardski Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I may pull the trigger on a 197, but not sure I have the uumph! for it. I'm 180#s, agressive carver, but thinking Schwietzer only has a couple of runs wide & long enough to let this beast run?? looking for some input before I commit:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_t Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Looking at you current boards, I am not sure if you will or will not like it. They do come alive at speed. Send me an email off line and I will explain better. kt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 buy it ride it sell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 ride it;let me borrow it! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 buy it :biggthump:biggthump:biggthump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've been on 197 Burner on hill with drop of 250feet and it worked there, so if you want Burner, go for it. 197 is perhaps easiest Burner to ride anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I guess I could always sell it or trade for a 188:eplus2: If I get the deal I'll buy it anyway, Steve'll have to come over to Schweetzer more often:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Get it. You won't be sorry. I had one then I upgraded to a 210 Donek. Works everywhere but bumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Go for the 197, just make sure to mount the bindings forward and get tons of speed before starting that first turn. I can get about three turns in on my 197 at our local 300 vert ft. hill here, it takes about half the run to get to speed, a few quick turns then frantic braking on ice. love it! I met up with an ex-Minnesotan now Sandpoint resident visiting family here in Minneapolis while riding bikes off road yesterday. He really gave me the, "time to escape flatland" bug. MMMmmmmmm snow. I really gotta check out the NW this winter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 where are you going to be riding it in the inland NW ? You'll need some wide groomy blue squares. Once she's up to speed, it's a really fun ride.Only 18cm wide so ya gotta be down with skinny at speed. Like a big old Caddy goin' 80 on a sunday afternoon. pull the trigger:eplus2: http://www.schweitzer.com/mountain/trail_maps/interactive/ should be able to get out of 2nd gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big canuck Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 It's a killer board, narrow waist boards are really easy to initiate turns on. (after you got it going min 20 miles/hr). 88's turn way easier. Of the coolest alpine boards ever made. Oh yeah front bindind all the way forward, agreed. My $0.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colintkemp Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Fitting that my response follows Big Canuck's (I got my 197 from him). Buy the 197, esp. if you like speed. It is quite turny once you are boogying. And I agree with Mr. T and BC - mount forward; it will help initial the turns with that long nose. Sitting here (in the office), I can't recall where my back plate is, but my front plate is all the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 The piece just relisted on ebay for $550 I'll think twice about it now, thought I could get a deal.:( A couple hundred more & I may as well get a custom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronG Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 The piece just relisted on ebay for $550 I'll think twice about it now, thought I could get a deal I saw that board on the bay also, sent him an email being that Rancho Mirage is only 45 miles from me. He wasn't interested in pulling it off auction, even though his listing said he could terminate the auction at any time. Now he wants more $$$. Why not list it originally for 550.00? Get someone's hopes up for a good deal on a Burner and then increase the price on it by $300.00 + You definitely could get a custom for a few hundred more, maybe even splittail custom!! OVR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 I may pull the trigger on a 197, :1luvu::1luvu::1luvu::1luvu: but not sure I have the uumph! for it. that is like saying I sure would like to ride Victoria Jealouse, but not sure I should try. does not compute. I'm 180#s, agressive carver as long as you are agressive you will ride the board. If not, it may ride you a bit. It is not passive and even at the speed that the board becomes lively, you will need to pay attn. With the waist width sometimes very little input is required for change in direction. The really nice thing is if you are willing to jump on it and let it work is that it will absolutely not let you down. As long as you are committed to the turn this baby will hang on like you won't believe. Very controllable in the medium to high speeds, tightening radius and things like that are possible too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Your money would be better spent on a stock, non-olympic Donek 205. Or olympic if you have the dosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Thanks for all the input guys, it's still on my wish list but I just bought a new 169 Atomic split tail for under $300:D so I'm not about to pay full retail for a 10yr old "speciality" board that I'll only use occaisionaly:( pics of the new pow ride later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Hey Mats, got a deal on an afterburner demo?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted September 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Anybody have the specs on a '05 tanker 192, Looking for the narrow waist?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 on ebay. this one is red in color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I may pull the trigger on a 197, but not sure I have the uumph! for it.I'm 180#s, agressive carver, but thinking Schwietzer only has a couple of runs wide & long enough to let this beast run?? looking for some input before I commit:confused: don't pay too much for it, not hard to break burners at all and they are good for their time but not amazing compared to todays boards. answer to your question, depends on where you ride and how wise of turns you like to make. IMHO the 197 is doable most places that are big enough to justify a GS board. the 188 is much closer to my heart for every day ripping by a long shot.... bottom line is if you want something big and you get this thing at a steal price go ahead and do it but the money people are getting for these things as collectors items or for the name or something makes the boards not such a great value if you actually plan to ride the thing day in day out. For a weekend warrior it might be less risky but then again a weekend warrior might be more likely land on the tail than someone who rides every day. Jack spoke the truth in way less words... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I saw that board on the bay also, sent him an email being that Rancho Mirage is only 45 miles from me. He wasn't interested in pulling it off auction, even though his listing said he could terminate the auction at any time. Now he wants more $$$. Why not list it originally for 550.00? Get someone's hopes up for a good deal on a Burner and then increase the price on it by $300.00 +You definitely could get a custom for a few hundred more, maybe even splittail custom!! OVR He is a Bomber Member - I sold him this Burner last year for 425$ if I recall correctly. It is indeed clean. Stiffer than the older Burners. Last of the "Sims" built burners. What is the point of an auction when you post that you can close it and then pull it the day before it closes. I really don't care for that. I don't think 500$ is out of line though, shipping $$ is a deal killer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 So when you say "get it up to speed before turns" are ya saying like 40 mph? or 30 ? or 50 ? cause Ive done all the above on various boards, and am "concerned" about the Rossignol 190 and being on the ICE COAST and what speeds I "need" before it rides where it is comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 So when you say "get it up to speed before turns" are ya saying like 40 mph?or 30 ? or 50 ? cause Ive done all the above on various boards, and am "concerned" about the Rossignol 190 and being on the ICE COAST and what speeds I "need" before it rides where it is comfortable. Dave, your weight, snow conditions, pitch will all effect the point when the board turns. No worry, the Rossi, turns sooner then the burner (in similar conditions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks OSB :) That was kinda the answer I was looking for in a roundabout way, but I agree, I just nees some snow under me to see what I can really "DO" on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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