Bobby Buggs Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Which boot do you use/prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Raichle- but only because of the ease in which Raichle boots can accept BTS springs- if it wasn't for that, it'd be a straight wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Track 700's, cuz they fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.T. Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Whatever fits best - for my wide feet it's Head's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Deeluxe for Steve:biggthump im surprised, not too many people on UPZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Been on Heads for 3 seasons - going to UPZ for next season simply for the possibility of using them to ski and not having to lug 2 pairs of boots around. We'll see how that goes... Boots should be here this week and gonna head to VT for some fitting over the summer...Real question is should I go foam or thermoflex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I USE raichle. I can't say I prefer them over any other though, since I've never tried any others. I sure do like the ones I have though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Raichle....I have narrow feet and the Heads I tried did not come close to fitting. would have prefered the buckles though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
185er Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I have wide and thick feet and have a pair of Indy...it hurt ALOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 ............got the tip from Ray here who also rides with Strolz foam injected liners. My control has gone up a few....(I have a high arch and wide feet, no problems now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarveurQC Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 amazingly comfortable and the buckles rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Timely topic.... I had started out on an old pair of Raichle 324s and switched to Head Strato Pros about three years ago. The Head buckles are definitely far superior but I wasn't happy with my riding. I recently switched back to the Raichles and discovered that I gained a LOT more forward flex. The Heads were so stiff that I couldn't get low in the turns. That cost me time on the race course. I've been told that I can get a replacement tongue for the Head's that's not as stiff. Is that true? If not, I may have a pair of 28.5 Strato Pros for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 nothin' better than Head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Timely topic....I had started out on an old pair of Raichle 324s and switched to Head Strato Pros about three years ago. The Head buckles are definitely far superior but I wasn't happy with my riding. I recently switched back to the Raichles and discovered that I gained a LOT more forward flex. The Heads were so stiff that I couldn't get low in the turns. That cost me time on the race course. I've been told that I can get a replacement tongue for the Head's that's not as stiff. Is that true? If not, I may have a pair of 28.5 Strato Pros for sale. Hey Pat, I had the same problem with the Heads. IMHO, the heads are just WAY too stiff in the forward lean department to get your body positioning correct, unless you are an *exceptionally* burly person. I am happy with my heads now, but I went through a lot of pain and suffering before I figured out how to soften them up. Arnaud posted a thread awhile ago detailing how you can modify the HSP to provide a MUCH softer forward flex, and I got some really great results by following his instructions. Personally, I don't think you should have to do this to a boot to make it work for you, but I wanted to stick with the HSP because of the fit (which is good for my foot) and the build quality/buckles. After modifying the boots significantly, I now have plenty of forward flex mobility, without sacrificing the lateral stiffness of this boot (which is a plus for me, as I like higher angles). My experiences with that are detailed here, in addition to linkage to arnauds original post: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showpost.php?p=190270&postcount=9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 As a thought, if you find the head Stratos Pro to be too stiff, maybe you are riding the wrong model. That is their top of the line race boot. If you like the fit, a boot made from the same mold, with softer plastic will be better for you, like the regular stratos... most recreational skiers do not need a boot with the same construction that Bode wears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 As a thought, if you find the head Stratos Pro to be too stiff, maybe you are riding the wrong model. That is their top of the line race boot. If you like the fit, a boot made from the same mold, with softer plastic will be better for you, like the regular stratos...most recreational skiers do not need a boot with the same construction that Bode wears... I'm with ya, but the regular stratos is pretty hard to get a hold of, if it is even made anymore (I don't think it is), and the HSP provides a better fit for people with wider feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalrob08 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 I have used both the Stratos Pro, Indys, also the former Raichle AF 700 of which are all great boots. However the new hot boot for me isn't actually a snowboard boot at all. It is a freestyle ski boot. Daibello Krypton Pro in Lime Green. AWESOME BOOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hey Pat, I had the same problem with the Heads. IMHO, the heads are just WAY too stiff in the forward lean department to get your body positioning correct, unless you are an *exceptionally* burly person. I am happy with my heads now, but I went through a lot of pain and suffering before I figured out how to soften them up. Arnaud posted a thread awhile ago detailing how you can modify the HSP to provide a MUCH softer forward flex, and I got some really great results by following his instructions. Personally, I don't think you should have to do this to a boot to make it work for you, but I wanted to stick with the HSP because of the fit (which is good for my foot) and the build quality/buckles. After modifying the boots significantly, I now have plenty of forward flex mobility, without sacrificing the lateral stiffness of this boot (which is a plus for me, as I like higher angles).My experiences with that are detailed here, in addition to linkage to arnauds original post: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showpost.php?p=190270&postcount=9 Thanks Tinman. I may haul out the hot knife and do a little surgery. Since the post is in French I have some trepidation. Are there any caveats I should know about before performing the operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.T. Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Since the post is in French I have some trepidation. Are there any caveats I should know about before performing the operation? Pat, just confirming that you did see these two posts from Arnaud which are in English: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showpost.php?p=62294&postcount=23 http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showpost.php?p=62296&postcount=24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 That clears it up! Much obliged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Thanks Tinman. I may haul out the hot knife and do a little surgery. Since the post is in French I have some trepidation. Are there any caveats I should know about before performing the operation? I ended up cutting quite a bit of material, and so far so good as far as I can tell on my side. The thing that I noticed after I performed the surgery is that there was a bit of a hot-spot towards the top of my heel because I had hadn't been careful to make sure that everything was smooth after I cut the material. I used a dremel tool to thin the material of the heel in the lower boot towards the top, where the lower meets the cuff, and that solved the problem. Otherwise, the only other advice I would give is that those adjustable gray pieces on the side of the cuff uppers ought to be sanded around the edges where they overlap the part of the lower boot as you flex/extend your ankles, otherwise they can get hung up on the plastic of the lower boot as they meet. The first few days out on mine after I cut them up, I noticed that sometimes the boot would seem to stiffen up at a certain point, and that was the problem. Sanding down the edges of those gray pieces so that they smoothly transition to the cuff material allows the lower boot to slide past them smoothly and unimpeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I have used both the Stratos Pro, Indys, also the former Raichle AF 700 of which are all great boots. However the new hot boot for me isn't actually a snowboard boot at all. It is a freestyle ski boot. Daibello Krypton Pro in Lime Green. AWESOME BOOT. correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the boot made from the same lasts as the old Raichle Flexon boots? If so, it is basically a new model of the boot that Anton Pogue wears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 yep. same boot, better liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Since the post is in French I have some trepidation The latest modifications are translated (page 20) There is also a link to an english pdf file on page 18. http://carvingspot.free.fr/download/montage_ACSS_en.pdf Poll : Head are better for me. - Better liner, warm, comfortable, with better feet holding. - Shorter shell for the same mondo size = less overhanging. - More accurate boots, giving better transmission of forces to the board / edge. - Better tuning capabilties ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the boot made from the same lasts as the old Raichle Flexon boots? If so, it is basically a new model of the boot that Anton Pogue wears? ^why I'm glad to see more freestyle skiiers... skiiers demanding softer boots with more flex = ski boots more like alpine hardboots:biggthump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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