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How close are ski areas to this place? I just lost my contract and my company has some positions up there in Wyoming. There is a outside chance I could be relocating from Albuquerque. Gotta love life as a DoD contractor. :( So what's the boarding like up there? How far are we talking for a commute to the closest ski areas, and what type of quality are we looking at? I'm sure it's better than Alabama (my next option), or Saudi Arabia (my next choice). LOL JPW

Maybe he's talking about CB? I noticed they had a park right in the middle of the Paradise Lift. I believe Ruby Chief paid the price on it's width to accomidate the park. That bit at the top of Ruby Chief was some of the most carve-a-licious terrain I've ever been on!!

I think you have a right to be upset but posting your displeasure on the BOMBER online forum probably wasn't the best idea. Michelle and Fin are gods here, and rightfully so. Bomber Industries does so much for alpine snowboarding. Does Fin or Michelle pay for any beer at SES? I don't think so... I can only assume your original post wasn't very tactful either. Next time pick up the phone and call Michelle and she'll bend over backwords for you. Then you will realize how great the Bomber folks really are and why nobody on this site is going to tolerate any Bomber bad-mouthing. In the meantime you might want to re-register under a different username and lurk a little more. Tons of great info here on alpine snowboarding. It seems like you're trying to apologize and the alpine community has been known to forgive and forget (unless you're name is Kildy or Tinkler).

Snow Report Updated: Friday, December 19, 2008 08:12 AM Next e-mail: As conditions require... A great week of snow means a great weekend of conditions and more terrain opening and more resorts opening too! New snow here is as of Friday morning, storm totals are since Monday night. Here are some highlights: Angel Fire is now open... Pajarito will open on Saturday... Sandia Peak has moved their opening to tentatively Sunday... Taos has the Brewmaster Festival on Saturday.... Red River opens more terrain... Durango Mtn opens the backside on Saturday and has Salomon Snowboard demo day on Sunday. To find out what's new at your favorite resort, check out the what's new information here. This report brought to you by Angel Fire Resort where they kick off the season on Friday (Dec. 19) with the annual benefit day. Tickets will be $15 on Friday with all proceeds going to NMX Sports. In addition, this season kids 12 and under ski, eat and stay free at the Resort hotel with an accompanying paying parent. They also have the Angel Fire Gift Card available in any amount, which makes a great gift for that snow sports lover. Click on the logo for more. Winter Forecast: An updated Winter forecast came out on Nov. 20. It calls for a normal winter in terms of precip December through February for the ski area locations of NM and Southern Colorado. Check out the details here. Sandia Peak: 4 New. 21 Storm. 24 Inch Base. Scheduled opening has been moved to Sunday, Dec. 21, but that date could still change based on snow conditions and amounts. A final opening decision will be made on Friday afternoon. Check your favorite radio station web site (links at the bottom of this email) late Friday for the final decision. Normal lift ticket rates for the new season are up $3 to $48 for an adult all day ticket. Teen (13-20) rates are $38. The Skier Plus Card is a great way to save money. The card is $40 and offers $12 off all day $4 off half day all lift at Sandia Peak and Ski Santa Fe except 12/25-1/1 at Santa Fe. Santa Fe: 0 New. 23 Storm. 44 Inch Base. 23 runs open (85% of the lower mtn). The Super Chief Quad Chairlift, Easy Street Beginner Chairlift and Pine Flats Mitey Might are open. The Chipmunk Corner Children's Center and the "New Carpet Conveyor Lift" is open. All facilities are open. Until more of the mountain is open, lift tickets are priced at $39 for an adult all day ticket, teen $35, child/senior $33. Taos Ski Valley: 4 New. 28 Storm. 50 New This Week. 52 Inch Base. 20 runs open now and 8 chairs running. Skiing and boarding on both sides of the mountain now. Friday is the last day where adult all day tickets are discounted to $40. Teen (13-17) tickets are $30. On Saturday, it's the annual Brewmaster's Festival... Bring your friends and sample beers from 25 breweries from across the Southwest region. Located in Tenderfoot Katie's and the Martini Tree Bar, $20 entry fee. The festival runs from 4:30-7pm. There will also be several local restaurants sampling their food. 21 and over. Angel Fire: 4 New. 23 Storm. 47 New This Week. 35 Inch Base. Friday is Benefit Day with all lift tickets priced at $15. 100% of the lift ticket proceeds will be donated to NMX Sports, a New Mexico non-profit organization dedicated to introducing youth to outdoor recreation. 61/76 runs open. 6/6 lifts. In terms of what's new this season... several on mountain chanages starting with Liberation Park. The halfpipe is being removed to nearly double the size of Liberation to include more jumps, funboxes and rails. The halfpipe will be repplaced with a "trick ditch," a smaller scale "ditch" that will still allow riders to work on their pipe skills. Next on the mountain, another new ten-acre glade skiing area was cut during the off season. The new run, Bear Glade, is on the backside of the mountain. This will be the fourth glade ski area addition in the past three seasons. Finally, the 120-room slopeside lodge is currently undergoing a remodel, with a new fitness center, refurbished meeting facilities, upscaled common areas, and four "showcase" hotel rooms providing a preview look at the finished product. The remodel also includes a comprehensive facelift for the exterior of the hotel. Lift tickets this season remain the same price as last season with adult all day tickets $59 and teen (13-17) tickets $52. The Sunday Only season pass is available again this year for $149. Pajarito: 1 New. 22 Storm. 40 Inch Base. Pajarito Mountain will open on Saturday, December 20. Spruce, Beginner, Aspen and Mother Lifts will run each day from 9AM till 4PM. Townsite Lift will be opened within a few days. Pajarito has two new special cards... the Pajarito Prestige Card and the Home for the Holidays Pass. With the Prestige Card, skiers and snowboarders who buy three regular-price lift tickets get the fourth lift ticket free. The Card is available at to all Pajarito skiers and snowboarders, and the cycle of three regular-price tickets with the fourth one free can be repeated as many times during the season as desired. Card use begins January 1, 2009. Only one lift ticket may be purchased per Card per day. For more information on the Pajarito Prestige Card, please call the business office at 662-5725. The Home For the Holidays Pass is back. Just in time for the holidays, Pajarito Mountain Ski Area is once again offering the Home for the Holidays Pass. This Pass is available to the immediate family of Los Alamos Ski Club members, and is perfect for returning college students or family members who have moved away from the area but are 'Home for the Holidays.' The cost is $175.00, and the Pass is valid December 19, 2008 through January 19, 2009. A perfect Christmas gift. For more information on the Home for the Holidays Pass, please call the business office at 662-5725. In terms of what's new... Lots of work has been accomplished on the mountain over the summer. The Terrain Park has been moved from the bottom of Lumberyard up to Easy Mother and has been vastly improved. New rails and boxes will be installed to complete the Park upgrade. A great deal of brush and deadfall has been cleared from several parts of the mountain. A recent-model used Bombardier snowcat has been added to the grooming fleet, permitting improved grooming capability (including the Terrain Park) this season, with more consistency. New seat pads for the Åspen chairlift have been installed. The Pajarito Café is undergoing a significant upgrade, including the new kitchen equipment has been purchased, and the layout of the food service area is being reconfigured to improve traffic flow and efficiency. Signs for the base area have been ordered. These will be installed for the season. Adult all-day lift tickets are up $4 this year to $49. Teen (13-17) rates are $40 for all day. Red River: 8 New. 27 Storm. 39 New This Week. 40 Inch Base. 32/56 runs open. 4/7 chairs. Now open daily. The Gold Rush Terrain Park is now open. Sipapu: 5 New. 41 Storm. 51 New This Week. 36 Inch Base. 41/41 runs open. 4/4 lifts. Now open daily. Adult tix are still $25 with kids tickets at $15. Ski Apache: NR New. 1 Storm. 1 New This Week. 3/11 lifts running. 10% of the mountain is open. Enchanted Forest XC: NR New. 13 Storm. 20 New This Week. 15 Inch Base. 100% of trails open. Now open daily. Valles Caldera National Preserve: Will open when snow conditions allow. Durango Mountain Resort (Purgatory): 15 New. 40 Storm. 64 New This Week. 49 Inch Base. 30 runs open with chair #1 (6 pack chair) and the Columbine beginner area is now open as well with both chairs running. Lift 2 (Engineer) is now open as well. Among the runs open: Upper & Lower Hades, Paradise, Pandomonium, Catharsis, Pitchfork, Mercy, Nirvana, Walk-a-Lot, Middle Bank, Cherub & Limbo. Lift 3 on the backside will open on Saturday. Lifts 5 and 8 on the backside will open as conditions allow. Adult tickets are $35, student/senior tickets will be $29, and kids tickets will be $21. This Sunday is Salomon Snowboard demo day. Check our their new board and try out out from the tent in the Village area. Wolf Creek: 7 New. 43 Storm. 75 New This Week. 66 Inch Base. 100% of the mountain is open now and all chairs are running including the Alberta chair and the waterfall area. Tickets are now at regular prices ($52). Wednesday, Dec. 17th, Icelantic Boards will demo all their latest alpine and telemark skis. The Pagosa side access to the ski area is closed until at least noon on Friday. Access from the West Fork (East) side is open. For updates on road conditions including Wolf Creek Pass between Pagosa and the ski area, contact the Colorado State Patrol at 877-315-7623. Silverton Mountain: 24 New. 69 Inch Base. Open Fridays through Sundays. Will be open Thursday through Sunday starting January 8. Guided Only skiing starts Jan 15. Right now if you want a guide, a reservation is required. Telluride Resort: 12 New. 27 Storm. 59 New This Week. 60 Inch Base. 57 runs are open now with all chairs now open and the new Revelation Bowl is now open. Early season (through Dec. 19) ticket rates are $69. Report Legend: Snowfall amounts are listed in inches. Surface conditions are noted as follows: P=Powder, PP=Packed Powder, MG=Machine Groomed Snow, HP=Hard Packed, SP=Spring Conditions, VC=Variable Conditions, NR=No Report From Ski Area, N/A=Not Applicable, T=Trace.

If you ever come east look me up. The snow here has been crazy!!! I am heading to Angel Fire on Sunday. Today was opening day and 61/70ish runs were opened with 40 RUNS GROOMED! I think this is the best start to winter we've had in a long time!

If you local guys don't meet this guy and steal his boards you are fools! $250 for a 185GS Kessler?!?!? $630 for the almost *brand* new one?!? Unreal!

This shape is unreal. I'd love to try the glass version but it would be a little too redundant for me since I own the metal version. I think mine has more taper or something though...a little "tweak" from Bruce? I can't believe you guys are selling these so cheap! I paid $850 for my 172 AM-T and it would take every bit of that to pry it from my hands. Mike, that 176 must be darn good!

Thanks for the great discussion guys. And thanks for the mods for not locking this thread or whatever...I never thought it was heading in a bad direction?!!? BOL is starting to feel like a true internet forum with technical discussions and differences of opinion. What other forum in any industry has these "big names" having well thought out discussions and sharing their thoughts on technology and designs? We are so blessed here at BOL to have all of these resources at our disposal...and to think a simple trip to Aspen in Feb normally means meeting some of these people face to face and making some turns with world class riders and board builders. Unreal! What other sport has this luxury? Just in this single thread we have: Jack, an excellent technical freecarver whom I personally would love to have 1/2 of his skills. His articles have reached so many and helped shape the image of alpine snowboarding. Without Jack many of us would have been trial and error types looking like posers on a "race setup". Bruce, the guy that built the best board I've ever owned or ridden. Just think this "guy" that we are all chatting with makes some of the best boards on the planet, and he custom built it "just for you". Simply amazing. Sean, aka Mr. Donek, don't think for a second this guy is behind the power curve because he's just not getting into the metal scene. I still cannot wait to try the Razor and see if it can be the board to retire me from hardboots? Why do I have a feeling I'll be leaving SES 09 with a new Donek in my trunk?!?! Phil, the Mr. Miyagi of alpine snowboard racing. Every time he posts I'm all ears and I love the fact that we can get 1st hand feedback on what's hot on the race scene RIGHT NOW. Mr. Tinkie. The man that builds these amazing exotics that are pushing the envelope on what's considered do-able. How are we to evolve without these types of people in our industry? Guys-don't think for a second us lurkers aren't taking notes and enjoying every word of this thread. I think it's great to see people disagree, dispute new ideas, and builders pushing the envelope. If we are not questioning, testing, and developing then we certainly aren't evolving now are we? To think my Coiler 172 AM-T is 2-3 year old technology is just mind boggling because I can't imagine it getting much better than that! One last note to Mr. Tinkie: I personaly DON'T want to demo your board. I don't think I have the self control to say NO when your board blows me away. The same goes for a Virus or any other high end "exotic" board. It was already hard enough justifying ~$900 USD on a custom Coiler for a guy that only rides 25-30 days a season! The WORST thing Tinkler can do is show up to SES with a handful of demo boards. Quite frankly I don't think you could keep up with the demand if you did. Anybody remember the wait time on a Coiler a few years ago?!?! So keep doing what you're doing guys...I'm going to keep reaping the benefits as I carve left, carve right, and repeat (as Mr. JJFluff so eloquently put it). P.S. You should have seen the faces @ Taos this past Sunday when I was railing in HB's on a Lib Magne-Traction on THE BUNNY SLOPE! :)

Snow Report Updated: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 08:03 AM Next e-mail: Thursday morning by 8:15a... Yikes... look at all the snow... time to call in sick and enjoy it! New snow is as of Wednesday morning, storm totals are since Monday night. Here are some highlights: Santa Fe, Red River, Sipapu and Durango Mtn all have opened more terrain... Angel Fire opens on Friday... Pajarito will open on Saturday... Taos has the Brewmaster Festival on Saturday. And... 'what's new' information is listed here for resorts that have not opened yet. For all others, check out the what's new information here. This report brought to you by Angel Fire Resort where they kick off the season on Friday (Dec. 19) with the annual benefit day. Tickets will be $15 on Friday with all proceeds going to NMX Sports. In addition, this season kids 12 and under ski, eat and stay free at the Resort hotel with an accompanying paying parent. They also have the Angel Fire Gift Card available in any amount, which makes a great gift for that snow sports lover. Click on the logo for more. Winter Forecast: An updated Winter forecast came out on Nov. 20. It calls for a normal winter in terms of precip December through February for the ski area locations of NM and Southern Colorado. Check out the details here. Sandia Peak: 7 New. 17 Storm. 20 Inch Base. Scheduled opening date Dec. 19. Normal lift ticket rates for the new season are up $3 to $48 for an adult all day ticket. Teen (13-20) rates are $38. The Skier Plus Card is a great way to save money. The card is $40 and offers $12 off all day $4 off half day all lift at Sandia Peak and Ski Santa Fe except 12/25-1/1 at Santa Fe. Santa Fe: 30 New. 23 Storm. 35 Inch Base. 23 runs open (85% of the lower mtn). The Super Chief Quad Chairlift, Easy Street Beginner Chairlift and Pine Flats Mitey Might are open. The Chipmunk Corner Children's Center and the "New Carpet Conveyor Lift" is open. All facilities are open. Until more of the mountain is open, lift tickets are priced at $39 for an adult all day ticket, teen $35, child/senior $33. Taos Ski Valley: 5 New. 24 Storm. 46 New This Week. 51 Inch Base. 18 runs open now and 7 chairs running. Skiing and boarding on both sides of the mountain now. Through Friday, adult all day tickets are discounted to $40. Teen (13-17) tickets are $30. On Saturday, it's the annual Brewmaster's Festival... Bring your friends and sample beers from 25 breweries from across the Southwest region. Located in Tenderfoot Katie's and the Martini Tree Bar, $20 entry fee. The festival runs from 4:30-7pm. There will also be several local restaurants sampling their food. 21 and over. Angel Fire: 15 New. 16 Storm. 40 New This Week. 35 Inch Base. The resort's annual Benefit Day will take place this Friday with all lift tickets priced at $15. 100% of the lift ticket proceeds will be donated to NMX Sports, a New Mexico non-profit organization dedicated to introducing youth to outdoor recreation. The official opening day is December 20. In terms of what's new this season... several on mountain chanages starting with Liberation Park. The halfpipe is being removed to nearly double the size of Liberation to include more jumps, funboxes and rails. The halfpipe will be repplaced with a "trick ditch," a smaller scale "ditch" that will still allow riders to work on their pipe skills. Next on the mountain, another new ten-acre glade skiing area was cut during the off season. The new run, Bear Glade, is on the backside of the mountain. This will be the fourth glade ski area addition in the past three seasons. Finally, the 120-room slopeside lodge is currently undergoing a remodel, with a new fitness center, refurbished meeting facilities, upscaled common areas, and four "showcase" hotel rooms providing a preview look at the finished product. The remodel also includes a comprehensive facelift for the exterior of the hotel. Lift tickets this season remain the same price as last season with adult all day tickets $59 and teen (13-17) tickets $52. The Sunday Only season pass is available again this year for $149. Pajarito: 17 New. 21 Storm. 58 Inch Base. Pajarito Mountain will open on Saturday, December 20. Spruce, Beginner, Aspen and Mother Lifts will run each day from 9AM till 4PM. Townsite Lift will be opened within a few days. Pajarito has two new special cards... the Pajarito Prestige Card and the Home for the Holidays Pass. With the Prestige Card, skiers and snowboarders who buy three regular-price lift tickets get the fourth lift ticket free. The Card is available at to all Pajarito skiers and snowboarders, and the cycle of three regular-price tickets with the fourth one free can be repeated as many times during the season as desired. Card use begins January 1, 2009. Only one lift ticket may be purchased per Card per day. For more information on the Pajarito Prestige Card, please call the business office at 662-5725. The Home For the Holidays Pass is back. Just in time for the holidays, Pajarito Mountain Ski Area is once again offering the Home for the Holidays Pass. This Pass is available to the immediate family of Los Alamos Ski Club members, and is perfect for returning college students or family members who have moved away from the area but are 'Home for the Holidays.' The cost is $175.00, and the Pass is valid December 19, 2008 through January 19, 2009. A perfect Christmas gift. For more information on the Home for the Holidays Pass, please call the business office at 662-5725. In terms of what's new... Lots of work has been accomplished on the mountain over the summer. The Terrain Park has been moved from the bottom of Lumberyard up to Easy Mother and has been vastly improved. New rails and boxes will be installed to complete the Park upgrade. A great deal of brush and deadfall has been cleared from several parts of the mountain. A recent-model used Bombardier snowcat has been added to the grooming fleet, permitting improved grooming capability (including the Terrain Park) this season, with more consistency. New seat pads for the Åspen chairlift have been installed. The Pajarito Café is undergoing a significant upgrade, including the new kitchen equipment has been purchased, and the layout of the food service area is being reconfigured to improve traffic flow and efficiency. Signs for the base area have been ordered. These will be installed for the season. Adult all-day lift tickets are up $4 this year to $49. Teen (13-17) rates are $40 for all day. Red River: 4 New. 19 Storm. 31 New This Week. 40 Inch Base. 15 runs open now. 4/7 chairs. Now open daily. Sipapu: 0 New. 36 Storm. 46 New This Week. 36 Inch Base. 30 trails open now with 3 chairs running. Lift 4 opens for the first time this season today. Now open daily. Adult tix are still $25 with kids tickets at $15. Ski Apache: NR New. 0 Storm. 14 New This Week. Lifts 3 & 5 are open, special price for lift tickets. Enchanted Forest XC: NR New. 13 Storm. 20 New This Week. 15 Inch Base. 100% of trails open, but there are still some thin spots. Now open daily. Valles Caldera National Preserve: Will open when snow conditions allow. Durango Mountain Resort (Purgatory): 7 New. 19 Storm. 43 New This Week. 39 Inch Base. 30 runs open with chair #1 (6 pack chair) and the Columbine beginner area is now open as well with both chairs running. Among the runs open: Upper & Lower Hades, Paradise, Pandomonium, Catharsis, Pitchfork, Mercy, Nirvana, Walk-a-Lot, Middle Bank, Cherub & Limbo. Lift 3 on the backside will open this weekend. Adult tickets are $35, student/senior tickets will be $29, and kids tickets will be $21. This Wednesday is Venture Demo Day: Stop by the Venture tent Wednesday and demo these great new high quality boards, made just up the road from Purgatory in Silverton by skilled local craftsmen. Wolf Creek: 12 New. 25 Storm. 57 New This Week. 56 Inch Base. 100% of the mountain is open now and all chairs are running including the Alberta chair and the waterfall area. Tickets are now at regular prices ($52). Wednesday, Dec. 17th, Icelantic Boards will demo all their latest alpine and telemark skis. Silverton Mountain: 16 New. 37 Storm. 59 Inch Base. Open Fridays through Sundays. Will be open Thursday through Sunday starting January 8. Guided Only skiing starts Jan 15. Right now if you want a guide, a reservation is required. Telluride Resort: 2 New. 7 Storm. 39 New This Week. 47 Inch Base. 46 runs are open now with 10 chairs and the new Revelation Bowl is now open. Early season (through Dec. 19) ticket rates are $69. Report Legend: Snowfall amounts are listed in inches. Surface conditions are noted as follows: P=Powder, PP=Packed Powder, MG=Machine Groomed Snow, HP=Hard Packed, SP=Spring Conditions, VC=Variable Conditions, NR=No Report From Ski Area, N/A=Not Applicable, T=Trace.

Already modded my Head SP's with the BTS, but thanks for the feedback! Not sure if this would help or not. I'll wait until SES and let a pro look at my riding before I hack up my boots.

I think I've had this same problem before, but I don't think you need longer screws. Some of the screws are longer than the others as I recall. Check your screws and see if some are longer. Use the longer ones where the extra length is needed. I could be wrong but this is how I remember it when I last installed a set of Intecs.

Anybody tried these mods with a BTS? I have BTS/Yellow and I weigh 170ish. Is a softer flexing boot going to allow you to be a more dynamic rider? I'm plagued by very static riding...granted some of it is downright laziness. :o Would this mod help or perhaps promote a more dynamic technique? Otherwise if you just want a softer HB why not try a different shell or a stiff SB?

Nice board Dave! I'm personally trying to do 100% hardboots this year. Started yesterday @ Taos with HB's on my newly aquired Lib Tech Dark Magne (thanks eastcoasticerider!). I have to say the Lib + F2 Titanflex + Stratos Pros is going to be a great compliment to the 172 AM-T. The Lib exceeded my expectations from a carving standpoint, and I still haven't tried it on an icy day! I'll probably be offloading my other boards soon!

What's wrong with cougars?!?! <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ4ZJ49QHc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKZ4ZJ49QHc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> That cougar @ 1:00 is quite the catch!

You see them coming from far away so they normally aren't an issue. The guys in the video above seemed to want to press their luck going in between them and such...

There's starting to be more videos of Indian School on You Tube. I can never seem to get great footage because quite frankly it's more fun to ride, but these guys pulled off a nice vid of about 1.5miles of turns: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSg3CyY3RIo&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSg3CyY3RIo&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> We start a bit further up than these guys started but we always stop at that same spot. It's a perfect run! Then shuttle back up to the top!

A certain BOL member by the name of Tom Palka decided to take a slight detour on his way back from Texas to ride Indian School with me. Tom made a small video and put it on his www.snowycolorado.com site. I know there are numerous longboarders here on BOL and my offer still stands for any BOL'ers: Just get to Albuquerque and I'll guarantee you one of the best times on a skateboard you'll ever have! My PM is always enabled. Thanks Tom for looking me up and taking care of us every time we come up to Salida and Ski Monarch. I hope to see you and Lisa again soon! I'll be at Taos Sunday for a bootfit and to ride the limited terrain they have. Wolf Creek, CO is now 100% open including the Alberta lift and the waterfall area. Perhaps a road trip is in order?!?! Maybe you'll let me demo that pow stick??

This thread is useless without PICS!!!

Ugh...I just bought that Lib Magne Traction too. :( I'd be all over this otherwise. Where were you a week ago?

Congratz on your new addition!

So if you're dropping in on a Deuce, are you "Dropping a Deuce"?

Welcome back Dave! E-Drama is just not worth it. I have to bite my lip so much. Bomber is childs play compared to some of the other forums I visit. Hope Cali is still treating you well?

Sorry but those four make me want to puke. I think a lot can be said for the Virus topsheets. Show off the materials!!!

You won't be dissapointed.

I thought this beauty was going back to Shaggy?