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So there's an A, F and AF Plates from Sean............didn't really see it spelled out on Donek website....so what's the difference and best application for each?? What's the application/performance difference from Plates and Apex Geckos ??

Hey Jeffrey I don't know how to read Bruce's hieroglyphics..... besides length.......How about some specs...model year, waist, sidecut radius......and maybe a photo while your at it........

Nope.......didn't take it that way. No worries SS!

Totally agree SS....just trying to get EU to see his "reaching" is mostly bending at the waist, compared to the guys in the video are squatting....which is giving them some "extension" EU...... this video might also help you see how bending/squatting at the knees, not bending at the waist gets you closer to "extending"

QQ.....Cool. Just let me know....but I'm just the opposite.....I'd take Heavenly over Kirkwood........ for Hard Charging

Eu.... Check this out around 2:55. There are some moments of softboot 'Extending'. .....and some of "bending" but these guys still rip in the Friggin Cold! For training purposes try to emulate the image that the still shot for the video: on toeside reaching your rear hand to heel side of board and pull and hold it in the turn....your toe side hand should be infront of you or reaching out to the side....not down by your side. This will help getting you and the board tipped more on edge and holding /riding that edge longer through the turn Of course once you get the idea and technique... where your hands go is a style thing..... Happy Ripping!

Hey Popa, 175/177 is plenty long for me and our crowded slopes!!!

QQ Your trip is to Kirkwood?? Kirkwood is a far piece for me from Truckee/N. Tahoe..........usually only there in the Late Spring (or TTC, RIP ) as they close really late...usually.

Hey Redia........I don' read French but I can tell you are trying to tell me I'm supposed to be on a H or XH flex Swoard for my weight. Well I've had this conversation with Patrice and Nils and all the Swoard guys many, many times. I let them talk me into a Gen 5 EC Hard flex and Hated it! Maybe it's my 61 year old legs or/and that I've always ridden shorter/softer boards.....but I love and can EC my Swoard Dual 168 )which the Swoard guys cringe every time they here this cause they thought I'd Snap it!), hated my Virus 163 UFC...(Well, I loved the Board, but my thighs hated it!) Love and can EC my Swoard EC 175 Medium Flex and had ZERO fun or ability to bend/ride the Hard Flex Gen 5 Swoard EC! Patrice and Nils know and understand that I am an anomaly and call me the 1% Their Weight to Length/Flex Charts Doesn't Work For.....................

Hey Welcome Eusahn! Hmm..... it would help to know what board, boots, binding, stance width and angles your riding. A photo of your board can say alot. From what I can see (and tell your film crew to get closer next time ) your not reaching as we would call it.......your bending at the waist and touching the snow to the side of you. "Reaching" is not the best term to try to emulate.....better word to visualize what you want your body to do is "extending" which is achieved after the turn is initiated....and your turning could be limited by your stance, binding angles, etc. I'm sure many other people will chime in on this .....and as it seems to be softboot specific I'll let those Sages speak up! But again welcome to the forum~

Hey Popa, I'm 6" 2'. and 225lbs. too much these days!

Yes - totally agree...... when and if you can find them! But riding with Any other hardbooter sure couldn't hurt!

QQ.......I'm a Hero in soft groom snow......it's the hard groom that kicks my butt! Next time your coming to Tahoe let me know. Maybe we could help each other! I'm covered at Northstar and Squaw.

Boy!....... I wish time on snow was all the was needed! .....but my 100+ days a season on the hill sure disproves that for me......but in this niche sport I rarely see any hardbooters at my hills, much less any to ride with and learn from.......so I'm also stuck with my bad skills that are holding me back!

Hey Tom.......looks like a fun board! What is the sidecut radius?? Also...... Great video! What ya using for a selfie stick with your GoPro there? Also what editing software to add the titles into the video??

Thanks for all the info guys! I can't decide......so my current thinking is...... I'm Gonna Buy Both! Really like my Swoard Gen 4, and need to replace it anyway, so I'm going with the pop (and price) of the Sword Gen 5 EC 175 M flex ......... AND Bruce's Special Sauce EC 177 ....it's just too tantalizing to pass up !!!

Hey Crack, Nope.....not giving up, just on hold until I can find.... or create a better system for what I do!

Technik, Funny you'd wish for a Bruce EC. 175 23 waist, 14-16SC!! Bruce has a left over "mystery" EC 177 board,( one of his older designs, before he went more decamber) 177 EC 23 waist 14-18 SC with titanal. Were talking it's original order weight range now.!............ could be Interesting!!! Definitely Unique!

John E......yeah I vote smaller so we can stickerize it on our boards!!

Hey West Thanks for the offer..........but they were ridiculously hard to acquire and I'm keeping them! Secretly hoping next years Step On system will be the One!!

True that BlueB.......just hadn't seen Nils post/reply in a long time ??

Hey Arnaud. Would love the Pro but I thought the Pro doesn't have the Pop of the Extreme Carver?

Hey Lurch...the AP67 is a 20 waist and a totally different rad tool/ride........ Hey Maxlanaudiere......do you have a Sworad Pro? Been thinking Pro model, but Is there as much Pop as the Extreme Carver?? Hey Quebec man....... I was 1st on the list to offer to test ride a Bulat from some guy offering loaners to test...........but never heard back form guy repping them....... Would have to see it and ride it to believe it....especially for the price......seems to good to be true! Nils ...... Nils from Swoard? If so, Great to see you on here!

Anybody ridden both and got an opinion either way?? I love the pop in my 23 waist Gen. 4 Swoard Extreme Carver 175 Medium flex......but a second Grind is due and I think it's time to replace it.........and am Super Itchy for another 22/23 waist board that loves to EC, but can still carve it up Pureboarding style! What to do, what to do! Coiler EC, or Swoard Gen 5 EC. OR!...... what about keeping my Swoard and getting something different like a Proteus or Stubby V2!! Decisions, Decisions!

Ok, I promise...this is my last post hijacking Sculler's thread! I'm setting up a comparison back in Carving Central.............let's take the discussion over there. ....and Lurch, I'd take a Stubby V2 over an Angry..........just saying. I'm Gone ~