pow4ever Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 prompt: write me a poem on Alpine Snowboarding chatGPT is text generate model from OpenAI that seems pretty magical. some call it AGI but quickly approaching the uncanny valley for me (something unsettling). this is what computer came up with: Alpine snowboarding, oh how grand To glide and carve upon the snow To feel the wind whip through your hair And hear the snow crunch beneath your board With every turn and every carve You dance and play upon the mountain You are one with the cold, white world And nothing else matters in this moment The thrill of speed and the rush of air The freedom and joy of each descent This is the beauty of alpine snowboarding And nothing else can compare. and in haiku format: Snowboarding in the Alps Carving down the mountain's face Winter joy supreme. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Chatgpt is pretty cool! I’ve asked it some pretty niche questions and got impressively correct (if at times superficial) answers. It’s crazy how correct and in-depth it gets regarding comp-sci stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 There once was a snowboarder named Dave Who loved to carve through the alpine snow With his board on the slope He carved with such hope Leaving a trail that was pure as the driven snow. Tried as hard as I could but this is the spiciest limerick that it would serve up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Never mind... I misunderstood the topic originally. Edited December 7, 2022 by BlueB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, st_lupo said: Chatgpt is pretty cool! I’ve asked it some pretty niche questions and got impressively correct (if at times superficial) answers. It’s crazy how correct and in-depth it gets regarding comp-sci stuff. chatGPT + copiolt seems to make l33t code type of interview question obsolete? which beg the question in my head. perhaps we are focus on the wrong thing in hiring CS ppl. It's a balance we need to juggle well. In someway the AI is reaching a level of uncanny valley for me. There is something about it that make me uneasy. there is subtlety in Learned Knowledge vs earned knowledge. Or maybe i am just old and grumpy... Having information (which if we squint our eye it might appear to be knowledge) pop out without much work/efforts. i am not smart enough to forecast how this will impact future human development. similar to autonomous driving - level 2 where human driver still need to pay attention. But the chatbot seems to full of hubris in some reply that even the facts are wrong but it appear to be right. Similar to stable diffusion (Open source equivalent of the DALL-E) when it was first release; it took over the "airwave" at least the one for geek/people in the field. Future is now and exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gawdzira Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I just finished reading (listening to) Deep Work by Cal Newport. The first half of the book is a warning to those who will be replaced by AI. This is happening really fast. My son is graduating high school this coming spring/summer. If he does not excel at programming, he better learn plumbing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) On 12/7/2022 at 9:40 AM, st_lupo said: There once was a snowboarder named Dave Who loved to carve through the alpine snow With his board on the slope He carved with such hope Leaving a trail that was pure as the driven snow. Tried as hard as I could but this is the spiciest limerick that it would serve up. Still room for humans then. It also scans better than the chatGPT effort. NSFW or children --- An alpine snowboarder named Gin Hard on, laid out, turns was carvin' The female instructor Will say that he f****d her "So deep!" in the trench he was in. Edited December 10, 2022 by SunSurfer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, gawdzira said: I just finished reading (listening to) Deep Work by Cal Newport. The first half of the book is a warning to those who will be replaced by AI. This is happening really fast. My son is graduating high school this coming spring/summer. If he does not excel at programming, he better learn plumbing. Good plan b. AI cannot turn a wrench under a sink. I wish more of our youngsters would consider the trades. I started in construction as a way to finance my education, I found that I was much better suited to building in the real world than in the abstract of civil engineering. I still use all of the trig I learned, and pass it on to anyone who will stay around as I proselytize about the awesomeness of carpentry. I am saddened by the fact that there are very few youth coming in, and that the encyclopedic amount of knowledge I have gleaned from the crusty old timers that both mentored, and tormented me will leave with me when I hang up my occidental tool belt in a few years. Sorry for the partial derailment here, gawdzira touched on something that has been bothering me for the last decade or so Mario 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I replaced a substantial part of my old job with a spreadsheet. Why is a human comparing numbers from 3 tables to pick the optimal one? And then running repetitive calculations to figure out the next steps? The previous guy was perfectly happy doing that until retirement - it drove me nuts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, big mario said: Good plan b. AI cannot turn a wrench under a sink. I wish more of our youngsters would consider the trades. I started in construction as a way to finance my education, I found that I was much better suited to building in the real world than in the abstract of civil engineering. I still use all of the trig I learned, and pass it on to anyone who will stay around as I proselytize about the awesomeness of carpentry. I am saddened by the fact that there are very few youth coming in, and that the encyclopedic amount of knowledge I have gleaned from the crusty old timers that both mentored, and tormented me will leave with me when I hang up my occidental tool belt in a few years. Sorry for the partial derailment here, gawdzira touched on something that has been bothering me for the last decade or so Mario this short video at 0:33 <-- i feel the exact sentiment. "i discovered I was useless, i had no practical skill" but at the ripe age of 40+ I am just another key board pounder for the man.https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en found out too late about this: other wise it's one of those circus that i am serious consider run away from home to join:https://www.opensourceecology.org/ose-apprenticeship/ This is a reason i think why lots of tech ppl end up as literal farmer. at the risk of sounding /iam14andThisIsDeephttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3208874-i-am-andrew-ryan-and-i-m-here-to-ask-you a bit Objectivism/Ayn Rand-ish. There is definitely something about making something with one's hand. On the complete flip side: I am complete at awe with the technology advancement look up laser-produced plasma (LPP) which shoot high power laser at tin droplet twice (once to shape it, and 2nd burst to produce plasma/light) so we can build crazy semi conductor that enable modern life and the advancement of AI. I never quite understood the concept of "lost tech" in movie/book but now i get it. because what ASML does today is manifestation of “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” There is a happy medium to be achieve here. STEM is important but so is shop (i find out there is no more wood/automative shop in my local high school any more). not sure about the PEX/sharkbite generation lol... sorry for my rambling time to get off the soap box and dream about that perfect carve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 isn't chatGPT just high tech plagiarism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 5 hours ago, b0ardski said: isn't chatGPT just high tech plagiarism? to some degree yes. sometime the whole is greater than the sum of its part snowboard is just bunch of wood/glue/metal but the reverence/love we have for it is beyond logical. to paraphrase kent brockman "I, For One, Welcome Our New robot Overlords" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/26/chatgpt-generated-crochet-pattern-results ChatGPT can take you to some strange places. What else can we try? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Job Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) On 12/6/2022 at 8:52 PM, pow4ever said: chatGPT + copiolt seems to make l33t code type of interview question obsolete? which beg the question in my head. perhaps we are focus on the wrong thing in hiring CS ppl. It's a balance we need to juggle well. In someway the AI is reaching a level of uncanny valley for me. There is something about it that make me uneasy. there is subtlety in Learned Knowledge vs earned knowledge. Or maybe i am just old and grumpy... Having information (which if we squint our eye it might appear to be knowledge) pop out without much work/efforts. i am not smart enough to forecast how this will impact future human development. similar to autonomous driving - level 2 where human driver still need to pay attention. But the chatbot seems to full of hubris in some reply that even the facts are wrong but it appear to be right. Similar to stable diffusion (Open source equivalent of the DALL-E) when it was first release; it took over the "airwave" at least the one for geek/people in the field. Future is now and exciting. Algo + system interviews can be gamed. There was someone who came from embedded devices, he studied systems design + various mock interviews for a year. He landed a staff level role along with IIRC, a 300K+ increase in compensation. You have to want it real bad though if you don't have experience in it. Edited February 26, 2023 by Odd Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Odd Job said: There was someone who came from embedded devices, he studied systems design + various mock interviews for a year. He landed a staff level role along with IIRC, a 300K+ increase in compensation. Hope the guy is able to perform and not just interview well. Getting catfish by candidate is waste of time. remind me of this guy: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/21/424980378/winner-of-french-scrabble-title-does-not-speak-french proper Incentivization/motivation is powerful... too bad my slacker as5 is way too lazy and lack of brain power... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Job Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, pow4ever said: Hope the guy is able to perform and not just interview well. Getting catfish by candidate is waste of time. remind me of this guy: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/21/424980378/winner-of-french-scrabble-title-does-not-speak-french proper Incentivization/motivation is powerful... too bad my slacker as5 is way too lazy and lack of brain power... Just have to be x% better than your colleagues. lol. It's all smoke and mirrors. Edited February 27, 2023 by Odd Job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Odd Job said: Not surprised by the layoffs. slacker/lazy engineer make for the best software dev. i like to try new stuff but if i have to do same thing twice/thrice - i tend to either pawn it off or automated it. scary that senior guy isn't aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAP_theorem what we do is series of trade off. it's important to understand we are design for. Don't tell me how much the senior guy made hahaha... don't hate the player hate the game -- iceT Luckily the stuff i do isn't life/death or mission critical. Good read:https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pdfs/wellarchitected/latest/reliability-pillar/wellarchitected-reliability-pillar.pdf#s-99.999-or-higher-scenario-with-a-recovery-time-under-1-minute or print it out and lay it around to establish dominance in the office lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Job Posted February 27, 2023 Report Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Nice link, I'll read it. Edited February 27, 2023 by Odd Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 12/6/2022 at 8:52 PM, pow4ever said: chatGPT + copiolt seems to make l33t code type of interview question obsolete? which beg the question in my head. perhaps we are focus on the wrong thing in hiring CS ppl. It's a balance we need to juggle well. In someway the AI is reaching a level of uncanny valley for me. There is something about it that make me uneasy. there is subtlety in Learned Knowledge vs earned knowledge. Or maybe i am just old and grumpy... Having information (which if we squint our eye it might appear to be knowledge) pop out without much work/efforts. i am not smart enough to forecast how this will impact future human development. similar to autonomous driving - level 2 where human driver still need to pay attention. But the chatbot seems to full of hubris in some reply that even the facts are wrong but it appear to be right. Similar to stable diffusion (Open source equivalent of the DALL-E) when it was first release; it took over the "airwave" at least the one for geek/people in the field. Future is now and exciting. I know so little about what you’re saying, but find it fascinating nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted March 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 10:36 AM, Rob Stevens said: I know so little about what you’re saying, but find it fascinating nonetheless. lol... likely it's my incoherent thoughts/source problem; not on the receiver end. more than happy to share what little i know an/or attempt to clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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