TD3 direct mounting to the board?

[snovvman]

Hi, similar to this idea: https://forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/38945-it-worked-straight-to-plate-binding-mount/ , I am wondering if there is a way to mount the TD3 binding directly to the board without the subplate and cant disc.  I understand why hard boots/riding style/narrow board requires an elevated stance, but I would like to stand closer to the board.  I also have a set of Catek OS2, but it is still too high.  It would be great if I can mount the TD3 directly to the board if there is a center disc that can fit in the round center hole.  Any ideas or other thoughts?  Thanks.

Edited March 19, 2020 by snovvman

[Lurch]

Tried the Boiler plate lowers?

http://bomberonline.3dcartstores.com/Traditional-or-BP_ep_56-1.html

You may find the 16mm screws are a little too long - I had to trim mine to 14.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Lurch
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[JRAZZ]

You could always drill holes in the plate but you would crate a dead spot on your board.

Have you tried F2 bindings? They seem to sit significantly closer to the board.

[lowrider]

19 minutes ago, JRAZZ said:

Have you tried F2 bindings? They seem to sit significantly closer to the board.

Unless you use lift shims

[dredman]

@snovvman  The TD-3 appears to be designed to allow for a wider pressure distribution on the top of the board, give more dampening and stance options.  

The old TD-1’s with a small mounting surface, had a tendency to concentrate loads on a small area and assist in breaking boards.  The reason for the height on the TD-3 is to spread the load over a wider area and to give canting options.  The dampening associated with the rubber gaskets on the TD-3 ‘s are a very desirable trait for some folks, including myself.

If you want low stack binding height.  Go with F2 bindings or Carve Company.  

Just my 2 cents

[Jack M]

Bomber's thin lower assemblies for use with plates (mentioned by Lurch above) significantly reduce height while allowing cant/lift.  If you don't use cant/lift, there is a flat version.

Here is everything you need:

Disks:

http://bomberonline.3dcartstores.com/TD3-Cant-Disks-for-Plate-Systems_p_289.html

E-rings, choose BP Only:

http://bomberonline.3dcartstores.com/TD3-E-ring-Set_p_54.html

Screws, choose 12mm:

http://bomberonline.3dcartstores.com/M8-Screws_p_38.html

The page that Lurch referenced warns against using these without a plate.  I believe that is just because the only available e-ring is stiff, so there is no TD3-style suspension.  These units do not damage a plate, so I don't see why they would damage a board.

Alternatively, the TD2 lower assembly is almost as low as the BP version.

[Corey]

Re: F2s being lower than TD3s.  They are indeed lower, but it's surprising how much room the toe and heel slider blocks take up in comparison to the TD blocks.  That mechanism takes a lot of room.  

[Mr.E]

The sliders are longer than the TD bail block alone, but most of that mechanism is over the base plate. I don't think they are any "higher profile" in total that a TD as far as surface area under foot. 

Edited March 19, 2020 by Mr.E

[Corey]

Vertical room. i.e. they're not too much lower. 

[Mr.E]

1 hour ago, Corey said:

Vertical room. i.e. they're not too much lower. 

Ah. Yup, a big heel or toe lift is going to be similar regardless if it's above or below the base plate.