snovvman

Hi, similar to this idea: https://forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/38945-it-worked-straight-to-plate-binding-mount/ , I am wondering if there is a way to mount the TD3 binding directly to the board without the subplate and cant disc. I understand why hard boots/riding style/narrow board requires an elevated stance, but I would like to stand closer to the board. I also have a set of Catek OS2, but it is still too high. It would be great if I can mount the TD3 directly to the board if there is a center disc that can fit in the round center hole. Any ideas or other thoughts? Thanks.

Interesting... I suppose what needs to be determined is whether the foot is slipping within the liner or if the liner is slipping inside the shell. The "nastro grip", or alike, would work well for liner slipping in shell. Thanks.

I can tell you that the T700 is most certainly NOT narrower. It does have more volume/space in the toe area. I just got a pair and promptly returned it because it was too stiff for my use (all-mountain, freecarve). I bought a pair of UPZ last year and returned that too. I found that, while they are nice boots, they were too stiff and lacked range of motion. The SB (325) I found are the narrowest (at least in the toe area). How old are your 325? I find that the newer thermoflex liners have a nice deep heel cup area. For that to be effective, you will need the right footbed if you have narrow feet. Take a look at http://www.yoursole.com/

Thanks Mike. I enjoy the Plow but wanted a narrower board. I just bought a Steep. Cheers. Edit: Here is a thread I started some time ago asking about the specs for a Steep 164: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19654

You win. Those are pretty nasty.

Presuming the bindings parts are complete, I will take it. Email on the way. Thanks.

With this, I presume Catek does not come with enough short set screws to support both bindings riding in the "low" configuration? That is one element of concern. I see that OS2 addressed the repeatability issue, but it still seems a pain to disassemble and transfer when compared to a TD3. As far as I can tell, one must remove the kingpin, then the power plate, then the disc, along with all the hardware, o-ring(s), and spherical nut. With the TD3, assuming the blocks are out of the way, it's just the four binding plate screws. Is my understanding incorrect? Thank you.

Thank you for taking the time to meaure. Do you have the long or short plate? On the washers, I presume they are the "spacers" as described by Catek? My understanding is that the kingpin mounts directly over the plate (with an o-ring between) and one would only add spacers to add room for cant/lift? I am having trouble visualizing how (or why) the spacer would need to be _above_ the plate. Thanks again.

With my M27 224s, I've seen a couple boot fitters, have tried stretching/punching the shell, remolding the thermoflex w/ extra toe caps, use supportive footbeds, lift under the footbed, patiently waiting for it to pack out, and more. My toes are still crushed. A pair of unmolded thermoflex inside a M28 123 still felt tight, hence the move to the 700T. I'm just hoping the M28 700T won't be TOO big. I can make up for a bit by using the thick Sole footbed. What is the exact measurement of your larger foot? Thanks.

Thanks for your reply. With hard boots' inherent thick sole added to an overall stack height, it is not a ride I particularly enjoy. I find that standing to the board allows me to have better board feel and control. That said, I like the TD3's suspension system and easy install/removal/transfer while the OS2's adjustability is very nice. The Bomber's extra stack height is unattractive, but so is the complexity of install/removal/transfer of the OS2. I see that you have a set of OS2s on sale. I will send you an email about that. Does Burton still make plates? Intec? I will take a look at Ibex. How is F2? Cheers.

I found this thread: http://www.catek.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=112 It seems like the TD2 is 39mm from board to toe/heel block, while the OS2 is 32-33mm. I read that TD2 and TD3 have the same net stack height. Can somone please confirm that board to toe block is ~39mm? I'd much appreciate it if someone can post some 0-degree TD3 side pictures. Thanks!

Thank you for your affirmations. I can't wait to try the 700T in M28. The 224 in M27 was just WAY too tight in the toe area no matter what I did. With the larger toe area, I'm wondering if a M27 in 700T would actually be better. I have now also read more than one posts that the AF/700Ts are not "small calf" friendly. I don't have huge calfs. I hope they won't be a problem.

With no lift/cant, does anyone know the height of TD3 and Catek OS2 w/ D3? I looked and looked but found no data regarding how high the interface sits from the board surface. I've read countless posts comparing TDx & Cateks, but have not seen a comparison between the OS2/D3 & TD3. I know TD3 & OS2/D3s are relatively new. I like the adjustability of Cateks but I also like Bomber because it's Bomber. One factor of concern is how high (distance from board to boot) TD3s puts the rider. I like the feeling of being closer to the board and I don't know if OS2 will offer this without comparitive data. At the same time, I do like the TD3's isolation strategy. I'd appreciate any input on this subject.

I modified my rear foot F2 Intec heel with lower rate main pin springs so that I can easily step in while I'm on the chair. The spring is not so weak that it causes reliability or safety problems. I am wondering if the Fin-Tec can be opened up to have the main pins springs exposed and if they can be changed to my preference. Thanks for any information. Cheers.

Thank you again sir. I think I will pull the trigger on the 700T.