1xsculler Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Don't go spring carving with out it. Today would have been a bust because the snow was getting soft and slow. This NOTWax product made my board super slippery for my two hour, mid-day session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, 1xsculler said: Don't go spring carving with out it. Today would have been a bust because the snow was getting soft and slow. This NOTWax product made my board super slippery for my two hour, mid-day session. I used to swear by it!! It's a dupont product.. You can buy a big tube for 50 bucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABRider Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Hey I haven't used that before, are you guys talking about the pocket puck? I was wondering if that was any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 I can't read a Zardoz thread without this image coming to mind. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardguru Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Frightening! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorita Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 So what do I rub? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Yeah, never liked it THAT much as compared to the old swix with silicone that they don’t make anymore, then the holmenkol that was almost the same. Current product that gets the job done better is dominator butter. Again, rub on, cork go 13 hours ago, Shred Gruumer said: I used to swear by it!! It's a dupont product.. You can buy a big tube for 50 bucks... Thin they’re gonna want a link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1xsculler Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Bought my Zardoz on EBay. They say it’s pure liquid PFTE (pretty sure I got those letters wrong), PTFE, maybe. It might be Poly Tetra Fluoro Ethelyn ...Beckmann would know. Botton line...it really worked amazingly well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, bobdea said: Current product that gets the job done better is dominator butter. Wish I had that this season... btw dominator is huge in Japan Any reason why it's better than notwax? I'm looking to get a slush wax for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, daveo said: Wish I had that this season... btw dominator is huge in Japan Any reason why it's better than notwax? I'm looking to get a slush wax for next season. Yeah, it goes over your wax instead thinning it out. Convinced Zardoz dries out your base, I don’t have definitive proof or anything. also butter stays on longer, can be mixed in with hot wax if you want. Im glad it’s big in Japan! It should be bigger here! Their product line is easier to use than most competitors and tends to be faster if you miss a little bit........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Their base prep waxes and the broad range ones are killer. Four waxes cover just about everything. base prep bullet zoom butter zoom covers most of my waxing need sometimes use bullet mid winter ordome butter in the spring. dont like swix all temp! Will tell you that! It does have the advantage of running the same in all conditions though, slow. if I were racing it would be different, might then go to swix for some stuff. Still have big bricks of ch and LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 @bobdea great! Thanks!! Going to look more into butter. Dominator make great stuff! I used dominator stuff for years and love it. Moved to Maplus for literally no reason. Both seem as good as each other! I also found this and I reckon it could work quite well also! https://www.tools4boards.com/maplus-hp3-orange-2-moly.html 7 minutes ago, bobdea said: Four waxes cover just about everything. base prep bullet zoom butter Ah! Yes I uses the graphite renew for base prep then zoom graphite for daily wax with bullet on the 1 or so inch closest to the edge. Haven't had a need for wet snow wax until this season. I would've been better off with a surf board I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1xsculler Posted March 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 I wonder what was the name of that stuff Clark Griswold sprayed on his aluminum flying saucer in “Christmas Vacation?” He went really fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 maplus is good not a complete system though unless you spend big..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) I seem to get the same effect with race base med as I did with the full dom kit. Just using soft base for base prep, med base for daily and arctic base for close to the edges. In saying that I'm not good enough to notice the diff. Edited March 24, 2019 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 hours ago, daveo said: I seem to get the same effect with race base med as I did with the full dom kit. Just using soft base for base prep, med base for daily and arctic base for close to the edges. In saying that I'm not good enough to notice the diff. Ahh, yeah, that’s the only sane way with maplus, where it misses is on the cold end. Guessing that’s not an issue in japan. Maine is cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, bobdea said: Ahh, yeah, that’s the only sane way with maplus, where it misses is on the cold end. Guessing that’s not an issue in japan. Maine is cold. Arctic base is (-30,-10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 I’m pretty much a lifetume user of Hot Sauce. How does Dominator compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 Never tried hertel but always wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 17 hours ago, st_lupo said: I’m pretty much a lifetume user of Hot Sauce. How does Dominator compare? Baaah, never liked that stuff. Holmenkol, vola, dominator, swix and briko maplus all are waxes I’d choose before hertell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdee406 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 If you like Zardoz, there’s an application process, called the ‘Felix Method’. You apply Zardoz, then apply the appropriate hot wax on top. Scrape, then brush...and hold on! It’s insanely slick and keeps you fast all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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