Joe D Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 My front boot broke in a semi-impressive way while riding in chunky powder at Mt. Bachelor today. I was heavy on my heelside, and ran through some moguls. Felt a 'snap' in front boot / binding and knew something had broken. Still made a few turns, slowing down, before the last mogul popped the boot out of the front binding. Couldn't get boot locked back in, finally got it lined up and limped down the last few yards. Really glad I was unhurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 What we have here is a classic case of " If man made it it can and will break". Glad you weren't hurt ! Plastic will deform and return to shape until it doesn't. Old story but i once witnessed a complete boot sole separation that left the ski brakes retracted while the whole upper boot separated allowing the ski to rocket to the bottom of the hill narrowly missing a young skier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Does anybody know of a hardboot source in Bend, OR? I'm here for the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertrash Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 What boot make/model? What year was it made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 They are ooold. Raichle SB224's. I got them in '06. Not sure model year. Had a lot of good days in those boots, had them dialed in & comfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) If you're in bail bindings rather than stepins a quick fix to get you riding again may be to see if someone can rent you some Dalbello Kryptons or similar cabrio style shell/cuff design. Others may know of other ski boots likely to be able to be hired that might get you going again. Edited February 18, 2019 by SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Scarpa Alpine touring boots might get you going . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Full tilt boots. Atomic Backlands. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Great suggestions, thanks to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Gotta throw a big shoutout to Bachelor local @noschoolrider - for use of boots and we met up to do some runs, which was awesome. Fun to watch him carve, especially the full arcs riding switch. Many thanks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noschoolrider Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Joe D said: Gotta throw a big shoutout to Bachelor local @noschoolrider - for use of boots and we met up to do some runs, which was awesome. Fun to watch him carve, especially the full arcs riding switch. Many thanks. You're welcome Joe. It was fun riding with you. Don 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/18/2019 at 2:07 PM, Joe D said: They are ooold. Raichle SB224's. I got them in '06. Not sure model year. Had a lot of good days in those boots, had them dialed in & comfy. Noticed on your profile that you use Ibex bindings. I think the less rigid construction of the older Raichle/Deelux boots is not a good combination with less rigid design of the Burton/Ibex race plate binding. To prevent the binding springing open, there needs to be way too much tension on the bails, which deforms the boot. This doesn't happen with a more rigid boot like the the old Burton or Oxygen hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRAZZ Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Ugh! Glad you weren't hurt! Plastics degrade over time. It's the reason you shouldn't use a child car seat that is more than 5 years old. Sun, heat (keep it in the car?), cold, and old age all contribute to the plasticizers leaching away leaving you with a brittle boot. Hey, at least it's an excuse to pamper yourself with a new pair of boots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BobD said: Noticed on your profile that you use Ibex bindings. I think the less rigid construction of the older Raichle/Deelux boots is not a good combination with less rigid design of the Burton/Ibex race plate binding. To prevent the binding springing open, there needs to be way too much tension on the bails, which deforms the boot. This doesn't happen with a more rigid boot like the the old Burton or Oxygen hard boots. I follow your reasoning, although my bails were never hard to close. Those 224's were really too soft. In my case, the lower boot plastic has gone crumbly, surely due to age. I have seen other old plastics degrade like this. I did like Burton hardboots a lot, but those haven't been manufactured in years. If Burton were to re-release a medium flex hardboot, I would buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Plastics degrade. A buddy of mine had these Deeluxe boots in a shed in Hawaii for 10 years. The shed is used to store wood for surfboard construction so it is not an extreme environment (doesn't bake inside) and it is out of the sun. He said they came apart like crackers. I guess Deeluxe boots don't like Hawaii. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hey, can I have the parts? Always good to have spares after all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Buell said: He said they came apart like crackers. That's Crazy!! Man! I hope his foot wasn't in them when they imploded!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 That pic is NUTS! That is the polymer dis-assembling itself.... TVR, not sure if your question was for Buell or me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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