AcousticBoarder Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 Just wondering if anyone knows for sure if I can use UPZ m25s with the TD3 SW? I have read about problems in fitting the standard TD3s on small boots, I presume there will be similar issues with the sidewinders? The boots are marked 258/279mm on the shell. Will there be similar problems with Fin-Techs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonPablo Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I don't know about Sidewinders, but I didn't have any trouble fitting standard or step in TD3s with 24.5 UPZ RC10s. With standards, the heel bail fits kinda wonky, it works but I found it annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 You'll have issues with Fintecs/step-ins. I use size 27 UPZ boots with Fintecs on TD3 SW. I can just barely center my boot over the edges of the board. The problem is that you can't flip the TD3 Step In heel blocks around like you can on the bail bindings. Stick with bail bindings and you'll have more adjustment options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hm, wonky bails and less adjustments are a little disappointing but kindof what I figured. Sucks having small feet and fitting best in boots that are smaller to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Just fitted my mp27 upz. Barely fit my sidewinder step ins and almost centered. I have always ridden a taste heel ward on my boards. Thank goodness Edited October 5, 2015 by slopestar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Just fitted my mp27 upz. Barely fit my sidewinder step ins and almost centered. I have always ridden a taste heel ward on my boards. Thank goodness Good to hear, hope your UPZs fit well. I may have to take a look at your bindings for future reference if I decide to go stepin later. I am pretty sold though on getting the TD3 SW though, even with a few annoyances I will have to figure out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 279mm sole length Deeluxe Track 700 MP 25, works with Sidewinder Standards no problem. I have my most of my quiver outfitted with Sidewinders. The more recently made ones seem to work better with smaller boots... the toe bail shape appears to have been tweaked each season, and the base plate holes were wider spaced the first year. You can always get new base plates or bails... those parts are relatively inexpensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxjas38 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I got a set of Track 325 boots for my wife at the end of last season size Mondo 23. They were too small to fit in the burton race plates. so I flipped the toe block around on my Sidewinders. It did work but the bail stopper that keep the toe lever from dragging in the snow was then on the wrong side. It works but not the best situation. I think I am going to get a set of the F2 carve intec bindings for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Carve might work, no experience, but more normal Intec race (what ever it is called) will take boot also but you can not center small boot properly. I drilled extra holes to get it some how centered. Hope they haver fixed it lately, finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 gulp. Now I'm nervous. Just bought a pair. Have Head Stratus Pro (25.5) with the old style intec heels. Hope I can get them to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 gulp. Now I'm nervous. Just bought a pair. Have Head Stratus Pro (25.5) with the old style intec heels. Hope I can get them to work. You might be OK with the Heads, the UPZes have a very short sole length compared to other boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I got my standard TD3 SW yesterday and while I do have to flip the toe bock around, they work fine, I even have some bias adjustability. gulp. Now I'm nervous. Just bought a pair. Have Head Stratus Pro (25.5) with the old style intec heels. Hope I can get them to work. Let me know what you find out with this, I am definitely interested in eventually going stepin, my local hill is a bit small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Should arrive today. I'll mount them tomorrow and update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Worked fine on heads stratus pro 25.5. Had I had 25's that'd probably be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 25 and 25.5 are the same shell, BTW. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I tried the TD3 SW's with MP 26 UPZ last year and was not able to set my bias correctly, I would think 25's would only exacerbate the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I tried the TD3 SW's with MP 26 UPZ last year and was not able to set my bias correctly, I would think 25's would only exacerbate the problem. After turning the front bail around, I am able to have some bias adjustment in m25 UPZs I am ordering some new replacement parts from bomber this week that may also help with the small boot situation, in relation to what a couple people are saying about old vs new design. If they do, I will note it here. To be continued! Edited October 19, 2015 by AcousticBoarder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) After turning the front bail around, I am able to have some bias adjustment in m25 UPZs I am ordering some new replacement parts from bomber this week that may also help with the small boot situation, in relation to what a couple people are saying about old vs new design. If they do, I will note it here. To be continued! I thought about that after I posted — should have mentioned: I never did the toe-block reversal thing — I'm sure that helps a bit but the idea of having the toe-bail unsupported for step-in functionality was a turn off. (edit: turns out this is not possible with stepins, which probably explains why I never did it.) I was able to get things to lock with some questionable bail modifications without block reversal, but the bias was still off. Hope the new parts work out well for you!! Edited October 19, 2015 by queequeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 After turning the front bail around, I am able to have some bias adjustment in m25 UPZs I am ordering some new replacement parts from bomber this week that may also help with the small boot situation, in relation to what a couple people are saying about old vs new design. If they do, I will note it here. To be continued! So, I actually ordered new bindings, it was going to cost as much in total with the replacement parts and the used ones as just buying a new set. I got them in yesterday, and can say for sure that the new models definitely fit smaller boots better. I don't have to flip any bails to at least get them to fit. I will be posting in the gear review section on all the differences I find between the used ones I have vs the new ones for the 2015/16 season I just bought. I don't think I will get to it until next week, but will update here when I do get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 So, I actually ordered new bindings, it was going to cost as much in total with the replacement parts and the used ones as just buying a new set. I got them in yesterday, and can say for sure that the new models definitely fit smaller boots better. I don't have to flip any bails to at least get them to fit. I will be posting in the gear review section on all the differences I find between the used ones I have vs the new ones for the 2015/16 season I just bought. I don't think I will get to it until next week, but will update here when I do get to it. Thanks for this... A couple of questions for clarification: 1) are your new bindings TD3 SW standard or Step-in? 2) are you getting any room for bias adjustment fore and aft with the new ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 New bindings as well as the old comparison are standard sidewinders. I only have one notch in the sole block of bias adjustment, so personally I will be flipping the front bail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I meant to respond to this thread a while ago and totally spaced. Oops. Anyhoo, when I used to ride UPZs I had to flip the toe block to get them to fit. No big deal, and I put down a clear coat of epoxy right on the sidewall where the toe bail would hit. No dings, no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Just posted a topic in binding review comparing the two sets of bindings I have http://forums.bomberonline.com/index.php?/topic/42202-td3-sw-for-201516-season-vs-older-and-small-boots/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Well. My Mp26 UPZ Rc 10 do not fit the Sidewinder Step in. Only way to possibly make them fit that I have found is to flip the heel on the binding. I'm thinking running my much newer but slightly bigger Mp 27 will have to do. It's minimal. The Mp26 boots I have were seriously punched out in all the right ways for my foot. But the feel of the sidewinder is worth it. Thank goodness EEKOE make a thick and a thin sock. I got to demo these last weekend and they were fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carp Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Anyone see an issue with this fit of Fintec on 25.5 Head boots and the TD3 SW? https://app.box.com/s/41tx353w2rlb5vj2m6r8c2tuhaoyzgbs Edited December 9, 2015 by Carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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