UPZ users, I Dont want to make another Multihundred dollar mistake.

[Bobby Buggs]

How do the UPZ size compared to Raichle/Deeluxe? if you were in a 27 Deeluxe did you go to a 27 UPZ. Dont want to make another Multihundred dollar mistake.

[Mr.E]

I probably depends on your foot. I went from a 27 Burton to a 26 Raichle to a 26 Deeluxe to a 26 UPZ. I have a low volume, narrow and straight 27mm foot, and shell (length) fit was about the same for all of them If you are buying new, I think Dan has a fit consultation/ exchange policy.

[Dan]

I probably depends on your foot. I went from a 27 Burton to a 26 Raichle to a 26 Deeluxe to a 26 UPZ. I have a low volume, narrow and straight 27mm foot, and shell (length) fit was about the same for all of them If you are buying new, I think Dan has a fit consultation/ exchange policy.

I am not the Dan that Mr. E is speaking of, but I can say that I wear a 27.0 in both Raichle and UPZ. When I got the UPZs, I felt that they fit my foot well and I wouldn't have changed sizes.

[Allee]

Another vote for true to size ... I wear 26.5 in ski boots and Deeluxes/Raichles, I went the same in the UPZ and they fit perfectly.

[kieran]

same here. i worked my way down to a 29mp t225 and went from there to a 29mp rc10. my feet are 30.5 true measuement though.

[pokkis]

To confuse more here table i found from Russian site where listed real feet size and picked boot

[Hilux]

Sorry I don't have much experience with Deeluxe but I've always been a 27/27.5 in all my ski boots (Salomon, Nordica, Lange, Dalbello). I bought 27.5 HSP and they fit great but wasn't too keen on their performance and slightly higher volume. I asked Dan Yoja (UPZ distributer in BC) about sizing and he said to follow the standard sizing method (measure your foot in MP) and that if my previous shells were 27/27.5 stick with that for UPZ. I measured my foot in Mondo Point and flipped Dan the measurements just to confirm and he said for sure 27.5. Hope that helps. Also see below from UPZ site NA.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Hilux

[Bobby Buggs]

People with 26, can you tell me what the shell size on the outside of your shell is.

[Ernie00]

27 Raichle and 27 UPZ for. Stop worrying and pull the plug on them :) If the deeluxe don't work these have to work ! your other choice will be much more expensive http://www.g-style.jp/

Edited December 9, 2013 by Ernie00

[teach]

What works for someone else may or may not work for you. The UPZ shells seem to fit narrower heel/ankle area but otherwise have the same length. So for someone like me with very narrow ankles, while I have to cram my feet into a M28 Deeluxe AF to reduce heel lift, I can use a M29 UPZ. "Can", not "have to". An M28 UPZ would be better.

Note the UPZ shell sizing revealed in Pokkis' chart. The same "boot size" could come from two different shell sizes. I'd try to get the correct shell size, then mess with liners to get a good fit.

I measured a pair of M28 UPZs (312 mm shell size) for reference. The Superfeet footbed from my size 13 US street shoes fits perfectly in the bare shell. The footbed is 30.5 cm. I got the same length measurements for Deeluxe Suzuka M28s (which say sole length 309 mm).

Hope something there helps.

[Surf Quebec]

I was in HSP 26.5 and the bootfitter add a lot of patches to prevent heel lift...

From Dan Yoja:

All hard boots use the same liner for full size and 1/2 size.

The difference is the thickness of the foot bed in the liner.

Thin foot bed (less volume)is 26.5, and thick foot (uses more volume) is 26.

You have 26.5. If you want 26 just make footbed thicker.

My feet measure 26.5 and 26.7. I bought UPZ RC10 26.5 .

I've wear them in house several times and I've tried them 3 times on the snow, my feet are now more confortable.

I'm riding with the original footbed and liner.

Once the liner has packed a bit I'll use my own footbed.

A lot of people are complaining about the original liner and are using another one, so far I'm ok with the original liner but it's not real cold yet.

[Bobby Buggs]

stephane, can you tell me what the shell size says on the outside of your shell.

[Steph]

I believe Buggs is looking for the boot sole length in mm's.

[Hilux]

stephane, can you tell me what the shell size says on the outside of your shell.

I'm not Stephane and I don't have a 26.5 but my 27.5 says this...

[forrest]

I have the RC-10s in a 26. The sole length is 287mm. Mine doesn't have two lengths marked like the green pair pictured above.

[Bobby Buggs]

Those 2 #s are messing with me. Forrest, what size shoe do you wear

[forrest]

I wear a 10 pretty much across the board. I have narrow to regular feet in general. I sized my boots by using the tracing method. My boots are tight as I was looking for an aggressive fit, having said that I have one pressure point that can be punched out and the boots are comfortable otherwise.

I think the large number is the sole length with the ski toes/heels on. I would guess the smaller number is the distance between the toe shelf and the molded in heel shelf you'd use for SB bindings.

I think Dan Yoja is pretty good about exchanging boots, obviously you lose shipping cost, if you do end up getting the wrong size.

[Hilux]

Buggs, also found this thread.

http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?30607-Sole-Length-Database&highlight=upz%20size

I just did a rough measurement and from the heel (edge of fintec) to the toe block is about 278mm and when I extended the tape measure out to 299mm and it would appear that's where the DIN soles would be as forrest mentioned.

What are your feet size in mondo?

Edited December 10, 2013 by Hilux

[Surf Quebec]

On my upz rc10 26.5

5.5/6/6.5

266/287mm

I bought the 2012-2013 model, seems that the only new thing on the 2013-2014 is the color of the buckles

I bought them october 2, just before the 2013-2014 went out, cost was quite below actual pricing.

[Bobby Buggs]

Might be helpful if people posted their street shoe size with their UPZ size. Im gonna re measure my feet tonight but I have been wearing 10 and 10.5 shoes. I know my right foot is bigger.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Bobby Buggs

[Bobby Buggs]

Right foot 28 cm left foot 27 cm according to my trusty Donek measuring tape.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Bobby Buggs

[Hilux]

Might be helpful if people posted their street shoe size with their UPZ size. Im gonna re measure my feet tonight but I have been wearing 10 and 10.5 shoes. I know my right foot is a good 5cm bigger.

Street shoes size! My kicks are a mix from 9.5,10,10.5 depending on company and activity

I worked at an outfitter and running store for a while and definitely wouldn't trust/go by street shoe size...unless you measured with a brannock that also had mondo with smaller increments.

[Hilux]

Right foot 280 cm left foot 270 cm according to my trusty Donek measuring tape.

Full size difference...hmmmm, I'd be tempted to downsize (27/27.5) and get it punched a tad for your bigger foot, combined with low profile footbed. Perhaps you've mentioned this, are you using thermo liners too?

Edited December 10, 2013 by Hilux

[jp1]

Bugs, I think Jose had the best idea (for those of us that do not have a shop nearby to try them on) a while back.

Purchase all of the ones (be it size or brand) that you think may work. Try them all on and keep the pair that fits best.

Of coarse I'd OK it with the seller first. This way, you will only be out of the cost of return shippng.

[Puddy Tat]

Deeluxe and UPZs were the same size for me (mondo 28). That being said the Deeluxe boots didn't work with my foot shape (even after punching). I've ridden/ am riding UPZ RTRs, Deeluxe T225s, UPZ ATBs, and UPZ RC-10s all in mondo 28.

Dave