Beta Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Asymmetrical board are never waste time and money, remember it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 A thrill is never a waste of time or money. Even if justy to remind you how awsome are the newer boards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 waste of time and money. Jack, your such a fuddy duddy.;)The last asym (160 sims ace w/emery surfs) I bought a couple years ago cost me $20. Way more memorable & fun than the last pizza I bought. People spend more than that for home decor or collectible brickabrack all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 waste of time and money. Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Jack dont like (old) asyms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 But, he runs with a copy of Burton Safari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladia Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because Jack Michaud said OK. Everything Jack says is the law on Bomber. You should know better! And zeparate thoze kneezzz jacopodotti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Dalla padella alla brace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because Jack Michaud said OK. Everything Jack says is the law on Bomber. You should know better! And zeparate thoze kneezzz jacopodotti. Jack Michaud said Oc for you, but he isn'nt law on carving board. Maybe on Bomber. After this, how many asimmetrical board do you riding? If your score is less than 0 it's better for you to stay in silence if you don't know what you're about speaking. Rimember it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Dalla padella alla brace Jax, qua ci son 4 mezze seghe che son arrivati domani, peggio di ricchioduro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladia Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 As I see my dear Italian friends don’t belong between sharpest knives in the drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Having different ideas doesn't mean being not sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110/220V Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 ...non mostriar4te una cosa maledetta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Jack, your such a fuddy duddy.;) you're. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Why ? http://www.bomberonline.com//articles/asymetric.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ok, that's 14 years ago. "Things changes to remain the same" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leopard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Ok, that's 14 years ago."Things changes to remain the same" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leopard So what has changed exactly? If you like small hooky boards ( from companies that no longer support alpine) that make you sit on the toilet ( or maybe bidet ) on heel-side go to it. I used to love throwing my asym Kryton 159 around all over the mountain, my first real carving board, but it gave me terrible habits that were hard to un-learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 There are several modern asyms, from companies still supporting carving. Why asym would make rider to sit on toilet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Just speaking from experience. On backside carves the the only way I could make my asym board stick was to hang butt way out like a jibber. Didn't have to do this on sym board and much less small adjustments required. I think this was addressed in Jacks asym death article so I made the connection, but I haven't read it in 15 years. I wonder how many new asyms get sold? I'm thinking not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Just speaking from experience.On backside carves the the only way I could make my asym board stick was to hang butt way out like a jibber. Didn't have to do this on sym. I think this was addressed in Jacks asym death article so I made the connection, but I haven't read it in 15 years. It is possible to not "sit on the toilet" on an asym, and ride it well, but it requires a compensation in technique for the asym offset. When you switch to a sym, that compensation goes away, and your movements are more efficient. Asyms fell out of favor when people realized that better stance and better technique led to edge-to-edge weight transfer that happened perpendicular to the board, not along a diagonal line. Of course some people still like asyms and can ride them well. (cue the conspiracy theorists about the only reason being the cost of building goofy and regular models of each board) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Jack, do you think anything you wrote on article would require update? As you mentioned one of main reasons why asyms went away was due industry savings. And due that all development went for syms only and then comparing few year old asyms to that time modern syms made path quite clear for us mere mortals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 AAA? Anonymous asym alergy :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Jack, do you think anything you wrote on article would require update?As you mentioned one of main reasons why asyms went away was due industry savings. And due that all development went for syms only and then comparing few year old asyms to that time modern syms made path quite clear for us mere mortals. Right on cue. Burton made an asym Factory Prime alongside the sym Factory Primes through 1998. I switched from a 1994 PJ6 to a 1995 sym FP. The difference in construction was not significant (other than the sym part of course). If racers had said no, I need my asym, they would have kept them longer. But no, guys on symmetrical boards were the ones winning races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 But was it so that many of those syms top racers used were internally asyms? Or do i recall this incorrectly? Dont get me wrong i like and also switched that time to syms with all others. I just like that people like different things and are open for new (old) stuff and development ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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