Bobby Buggs Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Unless you have $800 you are ready to part with I got to ride Dingbats VSR today and all I can say is WOW. That thing has NO speed limit and you can make any size arc you can dream up. What a creation. I can tell you this, Bruce will be leaving ECES light 1 VSR to the Evil camp if I have my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Bobby, I am happy to report that you are spot-on with your deductions.... My wallet is nearly 900.00 lighter also. I rode a few boards @ SES and once I rode the VSR "MooseKnuckle" I was in love. I needed to ride / demo nothing further. It fit me perfectly. Custom topsheet artwork will be done this week, and I hope to ride it before this seasons end (key word = HOPE) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExcelsiorTheFathead Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I'm new, and yes, quite ignorant. All the threads about VSRs, Schtubbys, and Monsters are intriguing, but I can't find any information on these models at the Coiler website. Are these boards all under the radar for carver word of mouth only? I tried to search the forums but no joy yet. Please help clue me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 With search functionality here in Bomber you will find plenty of info about them BTW i noticed samething with NSR ;) most people testing it want own one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 some info i saved from 2009. Line for 2010 All Mountain: 172, 176 x 12m x 21.5 Stubbies: 171 , 173 x 20 or 21. Either with 13.2 or 14.2m Monsters: 182, 185x 14/15m , 188 x15/16m. 20, 21.5 or 23 in all lengths. Classic: almost any of the glass designs up to 180 cm tweaked for metal. New School race ( NSR) 182 and 185 x 20 x 13.7/17m vsr: variable side cut radius. similar to stubbies but with multiple side cut. for ex my build spec: 173 x 21 x 12M VSR. Square nose 9.9/12.7/12m It's quite versatile. Email Bruce would be the best route. Tell the wizard what you want; almost everything can be customized. IN my case; I really didn't know what i wanted so I just told him my weight, level of riding and where do I ride and it turn out excellent. His product get updates constanly based on feedback. If you want one for next year you should place order now HTH David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Bruce is excellent at building boards but he is a ****ty webmaster and he is perfectly fine with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I too rode the Moose Knuckle, last summer at Timberline. Although it was way soft for me, I saw the potential and ordered a 168 Tight for myself. It came out awesome. Then I rode a 177 Mid-Plus at SES. Guess what? One of those on order too. In the interest of full disclosure, I've been bugging Bruce to come up with a board that has similar feel and average sidecut as my Classic (now known as Utility Stick) 177/14.2 but with a variable sidecut for a year now. The 177 Mid-Plus demo was the 2nd refinement on such a design and it was love at first dozen turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdahbonz Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 So what are the dims. on the Angry? Any of you ride one at SES? Hoping BV brings a couple to Stratton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Funny how it resembles a Madd 158 in shape....It's a good thing too if you're looking for a light turny board. I rode it at Buttermilk over on "Racers Edge" on a softer day and enjoyed the ease of turns after a long morning of riding bigger boards. I set it up old school with a narrow 19 1/4" stance with 70-65 angles and it was great! (I now ride most of my boards with a 21 1/2" stance). I am looking forward to getting it out on the narrow hard pack @ Stratton... If you liked small, narrow, quick boards this one will satisfy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Angry+Paul k on drifter, The test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaRtharsis Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Got mine last Monday Will ride it for the first time tomorrow night Hope to get 5-6 days on it before ECES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algunderfoot Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Thanks Bobby, ordered a 177 M + after demoing one at SES on Thursday. Next time be a little more timely with your cautions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 ordered a 177 M + after demoing one at SES on Thursday. You too, eh? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted February 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Since Dingbats board is a 177 I'm wondering if it close to what you guys rode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted February 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 What does the M + mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Got mine last Monday Will ride it for the first time tomorrow night Hope to get 5-6 days on it before ECES. You won't need more than a day on it... Show it some love, and it will return it back in the way it rides ;) A preview of my Custom Graphic :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted February 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I take it "MooseKnuckle" is the Canadian equivalent of Camel Toe:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 M+ is the "Medium Plus" sidecut, avg 14m. Here's what I remember of the sidecuts, and it could very well be wrong: Angrry - avg 9 Xtra Tight - avg 10.5 Tight - avg 12 <<<<< The Moose Knuckle, I have one now too Medium - avg 13 Medium+ - avg 14 <<<<< 177 demo at SES, my next alpine board Long - avg 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 what size did you try Buggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Mine is a 175 (177 with 2cm off the tip of the nose) 11.5 nose, 14 under foot, 13.2 tail. 20cm waist 6.5+6 flex It has an "M" by itself in the serial number so I assume that indicates the medium sidecut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algunderfoot Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Don't you just love the complexities Bruce has created...don't know how other builders can keep up with his inovation. From my recalections in talking with Bruce he has multiple sidecut options available Tight, Medium, Long, etc and will accomadate you on your order. The "+" option has a little more carbon fiber and added torsional stiffness. Jumping on this board and being comfortable in three turns, railing it halfway down the first run was impressive. More impressive was how many different responses you can get with changes in body position, rear boot input, etc. My call on the "VSR" = Very Synergenic Response" an immediate connection I would call Love if only the board was animate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Agree, GREAT board. Smooth riding at much higher speed than I'm used to, any radius with metal flex in the middle of the turn when you push, and great pop at the end. I'm leaving the plastic protector on as long as possible (looks better than shiny in the wood topsheet IMHO). I changed it's name to Tongue Depressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Varsava Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 OK so I better say something in regards to sizing etc as most of this stuff is now worked out. The history of these models goes back to developing BX boards with Jasey where we first tried a 177 with similar sidecut to my NSRs. Super fun but not very turny at slower speeds or off the tail. Pokkis liked his NSR so much he wanted a smaller version for his wife so I decided to massage the dimensions he gave me a bit and created the first VSR ( variable sidecut radius) as it has 3 sidecuts instead of the 2 on NSRs and Monsters. The 3rd sidecut in the tail and slight softening in that section allows the board to turn off the tail a bit more and feel a bit more like a traditional board. They still maintain a slight stiffer mid and tail which works nice with the metal feel to give a fair amount of energy at the end of the turn and maintains the feel we like from the more race oriented models. First one built was the tightversion of 9.9/12/7/12m. My wife tested it pre top install and told me to sell her other boards. Funny thing is she was giving me the feedback I tried to design into it and she is normally not one to go into the details! From there other sidecuts were developed so the range with approx turning radius is as follow Angrry approx 9.5m Xtra Tight approx 10.5m Tight approx 11.5m Medium approx 13m Medium + approx 14m Long approx 16m Have done sizes from 160 to 180 so far with most popular sizes of 164 168 173 177 These are mostly done in a carbon/glass construction and have and recently experimented with full carbon which we called "turbo" The 77 VSR medium+ at SES was a Turbo, also Mike Ts new 168. Testing the 77 Turbo head to head with Johns medium with carbon glass you could definitely notice it to be a bit more energtic but also it seemed bit more nervous on harder snow. They take that bit more input to ride so its not a better or worse thing, just different flavors. No doubt these have been my best sellers this season despite being quite new. Currently have plenty of previous info on these to adjust to almost any needs. BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algunderfoot Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 "I changed it's name to Tongue Depressor" Love that. I'm goin with the same topsheet, now you gave me somthing to think about...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 cut someThese are mostly done in a carbon/glass construction cut some more No doubt these have been my best sellers this season despite being quite new. Currently have plenty of previous info on these to adjust to almost any needs. BV nice to know that you are still building glass boards....you certainly make it hard to keep a stable bank balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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