Gecko Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Eagle-Vail mom needs to get a job, or a life, or both. It always amuses me when people have kids, knowing full well what sort of a world they're bringing them into, and then start complaining about how it all needs to be changed because ZOMG, I have children now!! If you're not prepared to actually 'parent' and deal with the good AND the bad, then don't have kids - and don't expect the rest of the world to revolve around you!. I agree with this to some point...the problem is that they are dumping their children at the mountain, skatepark etc and expecting that someone else will actually raise their kids. Since they aren't actually insuring that little Johnny isn't seeing a Jenna Jamison snowboard themselves they feel the need to legislate that the world needs to do as they say. On the one hand I agree that the boards belong someplace else on the other if they were doing their job as parents instead of paying someone else to do it for them, none of this would be an issue. Yes I'm a little bitter I have spent enough time dealing with unaccompanied minors in public places to feel somewhat abused by this generation's absentee parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I disagree completely. You're not even close. You cannot say the Venus de Milo and Playboy fall into the same category. There is a difference between artistic study of the human body and intentionally sexually provocative images. So where does that put Maplethorpe? He made an artistic study of intentionally sexually images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So where does that put Maplethorpe? He made an artistic study of intentionally sexually images. Justice Potter Stewart again.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 So where does that put Maplethorpe? He made an artistic study of intentionally sexually images. No he didn't. He is a hack. furthermore if you thought that was sexual.... uhh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffV Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 It's not just board makers that's doing this Head skis is doing this as well I saw these skis on a wall at a ski shop and the reaction they got from parents roaming the store was not good. There is no way in hell I could ride a board/skis with any of those images below my feet, and certainly not for my kids. The sad thing is that these products are being marketed toward kids/teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I think that ski^^ is Jon Olson's girlfriend. If the two of them don't mind, Neither do I...and if a chick in a bikini is offensive, I'm never taking my son to the pool again. I don't think the bikini ones are offensive at all...the Sims Faders were over the line of good taste. The burtons are not too bad but I wouldn't want my local shop displaying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 if I ever saw any Mapplethorpe homoerotic images on a snowboard, I think I'd puke let's face it, alot of snowboard companies are selling an image more than an actual product. sad but true, easily influenced teens just lap it up. If dad's credit card is ready to be swiped, out the door it goes. and there's ALOT of sheep out there that need to be herded <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVA0vHrG89U&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVA0vHrG89U&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Many ski companies have near x rated graphics on thier current ski line up, and have had the same graphics for many years, ie the Rossi Scratch. It's weird that when Burton is following the lead of other companies they get protested. Keep in mind that I still feel Burton is the devil, but that is for many other reasons than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Many ski companies have near x rated graphics on thier current ski line up, and have had the same graphics for many years, ie the Rossi Scratch. It's weird that when Burton is following the lead of other companies they get protested. Rossi Scratch: Burton Love: close? Hey, I'm not protesting Burton, I just think it's low rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 My Family bought a summerhouse some time ago, and inthe basement was a box of mid 70's playboys. I actually remember the green ball cap girl... Out of curiosity - What are the board specs on the Love? What is the Skills Market thay are trying to hit that board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 my comment about the skateboard industry was entirely graphics related.... I realize that Burton has a number of build qualities but i think they are trying to see if they can forgo that and instead build a popcicle and just change the wrapper....stagnation that the skateboard industry enjoyed for a decade as they shipped manufacturing overseas so that they could continue to reap huge profits on increasingly cheap products. What that graphic didn't sell no biggy in only cost $5 to make ($50 for a snowboard) lets sell the kids on the new graphic they board can be crap...some actual board manufacturers like Watson Laminates continued to improve the shape and construction but the majority of board companies outsoarce to China which Burton has also done with the lower end of their line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 those boards are probably junk, $429 is Burtons low end stuff. They didn't even show enough to put the little blur stars over the naughty bits. pretty funny how the stomp pad is gonna sit right on her bum. When I was kid, Playboy signified something beyond naked beauties, it was a lifestyle that you aspired to. The finer things in life. Just like MAD magazine and National Lampoon, it had a big impact on how I viewed the world. Sure, it's all fantasy and cynical jokes but it's not comic books, either. I read Playboy cover to cover when I was a kid. Hustler , Oui, even Penthouse seemed trashy but Playboy was uber coolniss. remember "what kind of man reads playboy ?" it would look super cheesy if they put the big bunny logo on the board, you know the logo every trampy stripper has I think a Patrick Nagel would look pretty sweet as a board graphic there's an x rated version of this video, too. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudEttJlw3s&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gudEttJlw3s&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 well I hope for an Elisha Cuthbert signature series and seriously I did find the Speed or whatever it was called a lot less appealing a board with blood stains all over the nose I mean that was truly stupid and not even laughable when thinking further at least I would not want to have that board on my feet in the case of an actual accident and someone I just collided with is bleeding on the slope I've always thought that speed topsheet is ****ing retarded too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I disagree completely. You're not even close. You cannot say the Venus de Milo and Playboy fall into the same category. There is a difference between artistic study of the human body and intentionally sexually provocative images. (I say intentionally because well, if you get off on the Venus de Milo that's your problem ;) ) The truth is, they probably do fall into same category... The art, since the inception of monetary systems, was mostly commercial, all the way to 19th century. Then, for the 1st time, painters started painting just to express themselves, against the cannons and demand of current market. Instead of being well respected and well paid members of society, they were bohems, mostly lived and died poor, some even sunk into madness... Van Gogh sold only one painting in his lifetime. Just over a century later, his paintings sold for record breaking numbers, which are still to be surpassed. So, what makes Sunflowers and Venus fall into the same category is that they stood the test of time and are respected as masterpieces by generations... As for todays' Playboy Girls, we really don't know what the future will bring for them. They are purely commercial now, but there might be some that would be considered masterpieces by generations to come. And how about Warhol? Just taking commercial stuff and proclaiming it into art? As for getting off, when I studied the history of art, I prefered "Nike tying the sandal" ba-relief, to Venus da Milo ;) Now, I'm just a man, so I've certainly looked at my share of... "stuff", but I am not a hypocrite. There is a line between what is supposed to be public and what should be private. I walk around my house in my boxers scratching myself, but if I saw someone doing that outside on their front lawn next to a main road I'd think they were crude, or even trash, and that wouldn't make me a hypocrite. I didn't mean you specifically. I just often get irritated by over-puritanism and double standards. It's amusing and anoying at the same time, that most of porn and deviant stuff is produced and vastly consumed in North America, yet North Americans can not see a nipple in public and accept it as perfectly natural. Also, for the record, if it's not clear enough from my avatar, I'm a parent too. Boys like Playboy Girls. Burton gave them girl-boards. No big deal. Big deal is that someone want's to ban a legally sold product and suppress the rider from expressing himself by the choice of his equipment. I call it censorship and oppression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraph Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 It's amusing and anoying at the same time, that most of porn and deviant stuff is produced and vastly consumed in North America, yet North Americans can not see a nipple in public and accept it as perfectly natural. Just for the record I have no problems with nipples. Maybe we can have a voting thread on who likes nipples and who doesn't and what country they are from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Yes, I'm talking about the US military, and not just any military, the bunch of deviants that fought in World War 2! Why just look at some of these images! It's deplorable I tell you! Deplorable! And these images can be seen in history books and museums in a light that supports these images as educational to our young boys and girls! This needs to be stopped! Who would have put todays skateboarders and yesteryears WW2 heros in the same pot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Boys like Playboy Girls. Burton gave them girl-boards. No big deal. Big deal is that someone want's to ban a legally sold product and suppress the rider from expressing himself by the choice of his equipment. I call it censorship and oppression. If burton wanted to make some kind of valid artistic statement they would have offset the girls with the addition of a line of cheezy chippendale topsheets too, that at least would have been provocative in some kind of semi statement-making way (and would probably have made this little stunt a bit less perilous for them in terms of disenfranchising their women customers). Low-rent Marketing-as-product pandering to the lowest common denominator. As others have pointed out, this isn't even original, sims and others did it before them, not that originality is everything. Don't get me wrong, I don't really give a ****, I'm just saying it's nothing but a dumb (and poorly executed) pr move. Burton is lame for making them. Resorts are lame if they ban them because censorship is just as retrograde as stupidity. But mostly, I think we're a bunch of puritans for giving a **** ... (although I can certainly understand resorts not wanting their employees riding them while patrolling/giving lessons). Call it what you want, call it art. Duchamp made the urinal into an artwork, (or the act of calling it art, anyhow) so anything is possible, but it doesn't make the urinal any more exceptional or artful or intelligent or anything better than a glorified human waste receptacle to simply be called art by an artist. Warhol made the objects of commercial populism into art too, but I sincerely doubt that the memory of these tawdry little pictures will enjoy any further longevity in our visual history than the memory of a fourteen-year-old's mid-afternoon wank. The only thing I think this whole thing drives home the fact that burton's product is no longer really its boards. Its the marketing, the hype, and the bull**** lifestyle they sell. That and we're still a fairly puritanical country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ouch. Travis is a good guy, and a friend. No need to bash him. He'll out-snowboard anyone on this forum anyways, and I mean no offense to anyone here. Jim what up dude? Why slam us. Does that mean he is better/faster than Ian Price, Chris Klug, Alexa Loo? All who have posted here. I thought it was more of a comment on the newspaper and town than the person. :nono::nono::angryfire:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ouch. Travis is a good guy, and a friend. No need to bash him. He'll out-snowboard anyone on this forum anyways, and I mean no offense to anyone here. I knew it! Time for a ski-off! (board-off....whatever) I'll race him. But then, I have years of dirty tricks and a big weight advantage on my side :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraph Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I knew it! Time for a ski-off! (board-off....whatever)I'll race him. But then, I have years of dirty tricks and a big weight advantage on my side :D CHINESE DOWNHILL!! wtf is a chinese downhill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Karvlow Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The "shape" of a snowboard is SEXUAL........BAN THEM ALL.......lets ride bikes :smashfrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The "shape" of a snowboard is SEXUAL........BAN THEM ALL.......lets ride bikes :smashfrea Important to distinguish between bikes, town bicycles, and dykes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 And remind me not to get behind a keyboard after a few drinks...My bad, should have seen the sarcasm (c: Too bad - he better get ready to throw down and get a beat down if I come to town. And then Matt can beat him up too. WWF comes to Aspen for Bomberfest. :AR15firin:AR15firin:AR15firin:AR15firin And he doesn't even know what he did. I will look harder next time. I wasn't really fired up that much, just giving a what up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The "shape" of a snowboard is SEXUAL...... sooooo... THAT's why you insisted on bringing your boards into your bedroom at Sugarloaf!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 sooooo... THAT's why you insisted on bringing your boards into your bedroom at Sugarloaf!! I can see it now. "Honey I only slept with one board that one weekend and she meant nothing. She was even a Burton, I mean how serious could it be." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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