kirtap Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 This might be a long shot, but, a few years ago, a picture was posted of the perfect toeside. I looked for it, and found a link under a post by Jack, labeled Perfect Toeside, but the link was outdated. Not sure if that was it. It had a picture of a guy on a Madd I think, regular stance, turning into the camera from the right side of the frame. There was a mountain peak in the background. He was not wearing a helmet, but just a hat and some goggles. I don’t know how else to describe it, and that’s why it’s a long shot. Anyone happen to know what I’m talking about? Please post it again, that was what I drooled over during the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Chris Karol Dsub beat me to it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtap Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thats the one. Thanks alot, you just made my summer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshack Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Just so I can get a handle on "good" toeside form, please correct or elaborate on any of these observations: 1) He's rotated into the turn, but not so much that he's perpendicular to the board (ie binding angle<rider angle<long axis of board) 2) He's kinked at the waist to get his shoulders as close to parallel with the slope as possible. 3) His weight looks pretty well forward. 4) His back hand is at his front boot cuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 yeah, that guy really sucks...he can't possibly know how to carve. I can tell this from a single still pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 That's buttermilk, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I looks like aspen highlands, picnic point to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Just so I can get a handle on "good" toeside form, please correct or elaborate on any of these observations:1) He's rotated into the turn, but not so much that he's perpendicular to the board (ie binding angle<rider angle<long axis of board) 2) He's kinked at the waist to get his shoulders as close to parallel with the slope as possible. 3) His weight looks pretty well forward. 4) His back hand is at his front boot cuff. 1) I see very little rotation of his upper body. If anything he is riding in a slightly countered position. (Cross under type carve). Countered is vastly different than counter rotating. 2) The kink at the waist (hip) is what moves his shoulders away from being right over his feet. 3) From what I can see of flex of board and spray of snow he is centered. 4) Front hand is at front boot cuff. Back hand is about 8 inches off snow uphill from board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Just so I can get a handle on "good" toeside form, Here's a new article on Toeside technique: http://www.bomberonline.com/articles/toesideproblem.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Do you were looking after this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civ Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I think the top one looks way beeter to me. Extreme carving only looks cool in video form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I'd be happy if I could look like either one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yeah honestly the second one doesn't look good to me. The vids are cool sometimes, but a single frame makes it look like the guy is just flopping down on the snow and hoping to pull out of it. I know this is not the case, but it still looks so ugly in a still frame. The pic of Chris is a cool one, I would change a few things to make it a "perfect toeside", at least the way I envision a perfect toeside. There are many different schools of thought when it comes to a perfect turn. My idea of a perfect turn is the one where you gain the most speed out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I like the EC where they hover inches above the ground but don't touch it. When you can get pictures of that... That's pretty good, I'll tell you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I like the EC where they hover inches above the ground but don't touch it. When you can get pictures of that... That's pretty good, I'll tell you that. Those pictures are taken in the instant before they touch the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~tb Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I like the EC where they hover inches above the ground but don't touch it. When you can get pictures of that... That's pretty good, I'll tell you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 get a Madd and you can fondle it all summer long. http://www.maddmikes.com/Info.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Derf Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I think there is a nice one in the 93 or 94 Burton catalog. I'll dig it out when I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoetrencher Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 That has been my wallpaper for years. That IS the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Good enough? I like that one, and the "Mad" one. The extreme carving stuff looks rather odd to me - diving for the snow just looks weird. I can see it's very tricky and all, but then so are the aerial tricks, and I've little interest in them also. It's all good of course, but to me forcing yourself down into the snow is just looks odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpalka Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 "De gustibus non est disputandum" How would you critique the Jasey picture w.r.t. Jack's article? He's bent at the waist, hips almost higher than shoulders, the main difference that I see from some of the "don't" pictures in the article is that the hands aren't touching the snow. Inside shoulder still dropped in a bit. Otherwise it seems almost the opposite of the Karol picture from the top.. and there the hands seem to hold up the shoulders so that they're semi-parallel to the slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 yeah, that guy really sucks...he can't possibly know how to carve. I can tell this from a single still pic. Tex? Whats that about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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