i8summer Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 I’m in the market for a new pair of binding for my Kessler xcarve 159 I’m looking at Flow Nx2 and Ride C10. Is there someone on this forum that had the chance to try both of them? Pros and cons ? I’m currently using Burton Cartel X and I find there’s a lot of flex in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Lots of activity recently in this thread, you might find it helpful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtslalom Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Ride El Hefe. Not much more needs to be said. Jt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Never heard of them but I’ll look them up thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 There what the A10 ride bindings replaced a metal chassis + metal disks and a carbon highback making it the stiffest binding in there line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 hours ago, jtslalom said: Ride El Hefe. Not much more needs to be said. Jt Broke both high backs in less than 2 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Thats not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnE Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Love my NX2-GTs. On my 2nd generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 From what I read online it seems like the ride A10 is a bit more sfiffer then the C10 ? But overall very similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, slopestar said: Broke both high backs in less than 2 hours Used to have Ride CAD bindings, same idea with adjustable foot plates. Broke highbacks twice as well. Riding older Flux SF and DM now - no issues, but saw broken highback on recent Flux CV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhamann Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 a lot of redundant information on this site regarding softboot bindings for carving. RE: neils post ride c-10. comparable to a-10. composite chassis vs aluminum chassis. ankle strap not so good. composite chassis may have broken where the aluminum gets bent. i am personally a proponent of breaking bindings as opposed to my body. at least two fractures (lateral talus, head, neck) and some other torn/affected parts. just something to consider i guess when selecting a binding if you're an aggressive carver. most carving bindings can be compared to the NOW odrive. however, i've broken a few bases, highbacks and buckles. i tried the nx2 a few years ago (not a fan) but some people love them. replaced this a-10 with jones apollo for next year. flux xv seems like a good option, but have heard warranty claims and customer service can be difficult. good luck in finding what's right for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Isn't the Jones lineup just rebranded Now bindings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhamann Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) yes Neil. 90% at least. different composite makeup in the "hanger" of the base plate as well as the highback. nylon/fiberglass instead of nylon/carbon to make a long story short. the "post" of the base plate, skate teck design etc is the same. i believe i've listed the differences in the post you linked above. oops. this post, not the one you linked. like a said. a lot of redundancy, but all great info from some great riders putting this equipment to the test and giving feedback here. Edited March 30, 2022 by dhamann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 19 hours ago, jtslalom said: Ride El Hefe. Not much more needs to be said. Jt Agreed, I have been on all the other that people rave about and the ride is my favorite by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger65 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 El hefe, hands down!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted March 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, gunslinger65 said: El hefe, hands down!!! Lots of good reviews on them but they were done being produced in 2020, maybe the A10 is the new generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackaddict Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Binding choice for softbot carving... What the heck??!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted April 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Now o-drive are sick! I wonder how efficient the skate tech technology is ? And do they have canted foot bed ? Edited April 2, 2022 by i8summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 8 hours ago, i8summer said: Now o-drive are sick! I wonder how efficient the skate tech technology is ? And do they have canted foot bed ? They don't they are good bindings and many like them but theyd need a few tweaks to be fully great i reckon. highback rotation, moveable/slimer heel cup and canting options would bring would be improvments id be wanting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 just in case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8summer Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 8 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: just in case what are those ? show us more pics pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 It is a 3 strap binding, the high back has been bolted up and a Leather strap has been added at the top...the Forward Ankle flex is severely limited on this binding, however there is forward flex from both the Leather strap and the High back, bending under pressure, the Lateral flex is is around 50% of a HB set up...I am not aware of anyone using this except JB and myself here at Milkland, I did see a set up about 15 years ago on Aspen mt. but the High back was not bolted to stay up, SB'ers do not like this because of the limited ankle flex, HB'ers don't like it because, why bother?...after 36 seasons here on Milkand and over 200 days on this current set, I am glad I have them, as they provide what I was, am looking for in a binding...Burton having fed me various parts to keep me going, for many years now, no longer offers either the parts I need or a binding that would work for this, when this current set needs to retire, I will need to find another maker, JB is currently using a Union binding however, that is easily adapted for this...we both use Burton Ion boots, though any SB works with this set up...this post will self destruct after 3 days as there are a number of people here, that are terribly offended by me even suggesting this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Different strokes!!! out of mild curiousity, why this instead of one of these super-soft “hardboot” setups I’ve seen mentioned recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsurfer Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 @softbootsurfer I come at from a different direction but achieve I think the same result with my diy tongue inserts + booster strap stop my boots from flexing at the ankles. So if they are securely strapped down by the ankle and toe straps im pretty sure the end effect is the same as your three strap setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, scottishsurfer said: @softbootsurfer I come at from a different direction but achieve I think the same result with my diy tongue inserts + booster strap stop my boots from flexing at the ankles. So if they are securely strapped down by the ankle and toe straps im pretty sure the end effect is the same as your three strap setup. I've done both the boot DIY for stiffness and the third strap (both production (so long ago) and DIY). The third strap is yet another thing once off the chairlift but is superior in all other aspects. At some point the boot DIY is pressing on the top of the foot often unpleasantly. Certainly you have some old bindings laying around... Give the 3rd strap a go... Super easy to setup like SBS has... Mahalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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