lowrider Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Scary talk from all. I have no death wish to see if i can go the fastest Rag doll out of control till an immovable object gets in your way is no way to say your having fun. Watching A Bode Miller ride the safety fence and win a race is as impressed as i wish to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Perhaps Keenan but i bet she heels faster than you ! Edited February 23, 2018 by lowrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 6:20 PM, ursle said: It's like the fabric has been ripped out of reality. You can't race on snowboards thinner than 16.1 mm because they have an unfair advantage and always win. Hence, they were disqualified. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I have no desire to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Neil Gendzwill said: I have no desire to do this. Yikes. I'm definitely noticing my upper comfortable speed is dropping the older I get, helped along by videos like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 There's something very much 'wrong' with Booker well prior to that crash. He's not 'right' with his skis, and for the speed he's going, looks way too tight. Like he buckled his cuffs wrong, or someone sneaked a lift under his heels, to get him to the finish quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Beckmann AG said: There's something very much 'wrong' with Booker well prior to that crash. He's not 'right' with his skis, and for the speed he's going, looks way too tight. Like he buckled his cuffs wrong, or someone sneaked a lift under his heels, to get him to the finish quicker. Brooker, not Booker. He is one of Canada's most decorated downhillers. I'm not about to critique a guy crashing at Kitzbühel, that's a monster of a course and one that Brooker has won at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Ssorry for the typo. That wasn't a critique of Brooker, it was an observation regarding body language and how it can express a state of distress. If you read a little closer, you might notice the observation relates to equipment, and how it may affect an athlete. Someone might find that kind of thing useful at some point. Obviously, he was adapting to the circumstance as well as possible, but that clearly didn''t work out so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Beckmann AG said: Someone might find that kind of thing useful at some point. I'm sure Alpine Canada's coaching staff scours this forum daily looking for gems of insight on 30 year old crashes. From the horse's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Neil Gendzwill said: I have no desire to do this. I have no desire to rupture testicles, but rails are very popular for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Neil Gendzwill said: I'm sure Alpine Canada's coaching staff scours this forum daily looking for gems of insight on 30 year old crashes. From the horse's mouth. Of course not. They can call you directly for guidance. The past often becomes he future, so there's enormous value in reviewing old footage of familiar venues. There are at least a few on this forum with an interest in how things work, and why things go wrong, and there are some interesting lessons to take from Brooker's misfortune; not least of which is to pay attention when things go a little 'off' in training. From your link ->"The year before my serious crash, I fell near that same spot. I went off the jump and I caught an edge. I then fell down in the compression area and I ended up on the other side of the course in the fence. But I didn’t give it another thought." Like it or not, details matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I’d say most of Todd’s distress comes from how courses were prepped back then. If you go back even farther, racers looked even more ragged, as their pitches were pretty much just flagged out on a totally haggard run. If you took today’s racers, with all their training and dropped them into Todd’s place in that moment, they might be slightly less shit looking, but still probably look like shit. FF to Korea, and the slope is groomed within an inch of its life, with aprons rivalling that if Dubai’s F1 track. If you made that course “turnier”, with more gates and lower speeds, it would probably be safe enough for SBDH. Or, you could just hold it for 6 people in a M of fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 From the article: You couldn’t build a Kitzbuehel today. There are a lot of elements of the course that aren’t really legal anymore. If you were building a brand new course, it just wouldn’t work. At Kitzbuehel, they allow sections that are narrow and sections where you don’t see anything. You’re kind of blind, like you’re falling off into the abyss. These dangerous areas wouldn’t be allowed at other courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob Stevens said: I’d say most of Todd’s distress comes from how courses were prepped back then. If you go back even farther, racers looked even more ragged, as their pitches were pretty much just flagged out on a totally haggard run. If you took today’s racers, with all their training and dropped them into Todd’s place in that moment, they might be slightly less shit looking, but still probably look like shit. Not disagreeing with your first point, but having recently logged way too many hours on vintage DH footage, a lot of those racers flowed better over the snow, despite their low tech gear and boot-packed courses. As to your second, I'd disagree, to the extent that most on the WC seem to be more 'as one' with their gear, and would be less affected by surface irregularity. Similarly, If you purposely tweaked their gear, you could easily replicate Brooker's affect prior to crashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Beckmann AG said: As to your second, I'd disagree, to the extent that most on the WC seem to be more 'as one' with their gear, and would be less affected by surface irregularity. Similarly, If you purposely tweaked their gear, you could easily replicate Brooker's affect prior to crashing. Put their boots in the freezer and send them down the Hahnenkamm after a full weekend of tourists have had their way with it and it's been groomed with an '82 Thiokol. O, the cries and lamentations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patmoore Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Okay, it's slalom, not DH but impressive nonetheless. I shot this video at Steamboat during the NASTAR Nationals two years ago. US Team Downhiller Jackie Wiles (now recovering from a nasty crash) and Justin Reiter. Jackie is in a speedsuit and can skate and pole. Justin wins by 0.01 and won again on the rematch when they switched courses. Justin also beat former US Team racers Jake Fiala and AJ Kitt. The only skier to beat him (barely) was five-time Olympian Casey Puckett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Rob Stevens said: Put their boots in the freezer and send them down the Hahnenkamm after a full weekend of tourists have had their way with it and it's been groomed with an '82 Thiokol. O, the cries and lamentations. Expecially if they are on the run at the same time as the Thiokol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tscherno-Bill Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Possible Board-Specs for DH or Super-G? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark3141 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 The resistance to having a 110kph snowboard downhill run is that in order to achieve stability at 110 to 120 mph, your appliances, skis or snowboards, need to be LONG. It’s just basic physics. Moreover, the bindings need to be releasable so that your legs are not torn off at the ankles when you crash. I don’t want my ankles torn off. The newton-meters of force when you crash at high speed is lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 *cough* torque *cough* I can't believe I just became that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, st_lupo said: *cough* torque *cough* I can't believe I just became that guy. You OK, or should I be looking in the Alpine Injured List? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_lupo Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, SunSurfer said: You OK, or should I be looking in the Alpine Injured List? Naw, just getting over my summer vacation covid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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