AgassizSkidder Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Does anyone have any experience with the Level protective gloves. They have the wrist guards built in and look like a good idea. http://www.xsportsprotective.com/level-fly-snowboard-gloves.html I am starting to look at protective gear for next season and there is so much available that I am feeling a little lost. Body armour seems to range between $55 and $300. What works and what doesn't? http://www.xsportsprotective.com/snowboard-upper-body-armor.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I do. Levels are my favorites. They last long provided that you treat the palms with some additional rubber layers (Sika products do the job properly). The protector under the palm serves the purpose well. Go for their top product, I think it is now called Super Pipe. As for body armor I belong to the group of people that say, thank you, but no, thank you. I feel that it limits my moves. Having said that I also have to say that it would be very stupid to advise someone not to wear protective gear, so go for it. Kindest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Houghton Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Level gloves are great. There are a few models, try them on if you can as the shapes are a bit different. I have the full jacket 661 armour, I think it's the MTB version. Can't even tell that it's on. If you wear your jacket a bit on the loose side it will fit underneath without causing restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhD Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Beware that some of them (I don't recall which model I bought in Aspen) have inserts of a waffle-textured fabric that would be really useful on snow tires - tough, abrasion resistant and grippy as hell. Not what you want to be touching the snow with. Pat the dog in these and the dog is likely to grab your arm and take off running, leaving you spinning down the piste with a very sore shoulder. The fingertips are a little numb and slippery. Otherwise, they are nice gloves. I've glued a patch of 2" nylon flat webbing onto the heel of the palm of my other (Swany) leather gloves with urethane caulking compound. That is even tougher and not very grippy at all, and I can fit a wrist brace inside the gloves. These gloves are better for dexterity, but I suspect that a little dab of polyurethane on the fingertips would help the Levels some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I like biomex plus wrist guard that comes with level gloves because they have really small volume compared to other wrist guards. Saved my wrist once even. I've thrown my super pipe gloves away 2 years ago due to wear but I still use the wrist guard that came with it. Good gloves, but even with kevlar reinforcements they are not that durable for EC or rope tow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Wrist guard discussion: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=292695&highlight=wrist+guard#post292695 Body armour discussion: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=26372&highlight=body+armour http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28471&highlight=body+armour http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=27852&highlight=body+armour Mark if you start EC get this gloves: http://www.thundercloudmarketing.com/FreePage22.htm worth spending... Cheers RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gcarve Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Wrist guard discussion:http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=292695&highlight=wrist+guard#post292695 Body armour discussion: http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=26372&highlight=body+armour http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28471&highlight=body+armour http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=27852&highlight=body+armour Mark if you start EC get this gloves: http://www.thundercloudmarketing.com/FreePage22.htm worth spending... Cheers RT Thanks for the great links! Those EC gloves are exactly what I've been looking for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Try Sika Tack Drive or Sikaflex 256, it will convert any gloves to pro EC gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Oh.. thats easy.. I use a fake name and address...Sceintific studies have shown it works 60 percent of the time ....every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Level makes great gloves, they will fall apart just like any other glove of course, but slower than many and the wrist protection is/seems effective without being uncomfortable/restrictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thanks for the great links! Those EC gloves are exactly what I've been looking for! These gloves need extra work to improve their function as gloves and extend their longetivity: 1) 3M Outdoor fabric spray (5-8 coats/layer) for weather resistan. 2) These gloves are as strong as its threads that hold them together. It's not KEVLAR threads. As ISTVAN suggestion: Try Sika Tack Drive or Sikaflex 256, it will convert any gloves to pro EC gloves. to apply on top those threads to protect them. More work but it's still worth it. Good luck, RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Shred you may want to rethink that approach doesn't seem to be working too well for Arnold. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thundercloudgloves won't hold ECing either. The stitchwork is the weak point of all snowboardgloves with ECing or whatever you do with your hands in the snow/ice at high speeds: everything will be destroyed sooner or later. Buy the cheapest gloves you can find, drop in a protector (of Level or else) and drop some rubberstuff on it like Sikaflex or something else. I hope some one will pop in and make some real ECgloves. May be this one but hardly gettable: http://www.extremecarving.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8664&highlight= (gloves with a surface of polyurethane seems to do the job well). I have used a new pair of levelgloves on the Saas Fee glacier two years ago. Were gone within 2 hours. Then I decided to put some Sikaflex on it: still have the gloves after using them for 15 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Thundergloves rock. The only pair that lasted me over a season. But, yup, stiching is the weak point. Simple solution for EC - wear the wristguards on top of the gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Try Sika Tack Drive or Sikaflex 256, it will convert any gloves to pro EC gloves. Isnt this stuff far too thick? Shouldnt you use something more liquid in order to "coat" the glove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Karvlow Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Level makes great gloves, they will fall apart just like any other glove of course, but slower than many and the wrist protection is/seems effective without being uncomfortable/restrictive. I have a pair of trigger mits that are 8 years old, replaced the velcro on them the palm base still has most of the nubs on it. wish they made it in a mitt. it's the only glove that has made it through a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Isnt this stuff far too thick? Shouldnt you use something more liquid in order to "coat" the glove? I do mix it with aceton, so it's easier to apply and the drytime is shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgassizSkidder Posted May 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Thanks for all the responses. I did search this topic before posting but most responses seemed to be about the 661 brand. I'm curious what the difference is between say the POC at $299 and the 661 at $159. They all seem to do the same thing. I guess I better get my ass off the couch and go try some of these on. :rolleyes: I am looking forward to dressing a bit more like Robocop though. Guaranteed chick magnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I am looking forward to dressing a bit more like Robocop though. Guaranteed chick magnet Ha, ha, you've learned from Roy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Benttech, no those materials are easy to handle, density is similar to toothpaste. Of course you can't dip the gloves into that glue if that's what you ment by coating, but in my opinion it is not the way to do it. This is how I do it: I put one of the gloves on, put some glue on the palm and use a spatula (a piece of flat something will do) to distribute the glue evenly on the surface. Dependent on your skills you can get a very nice, smooth surface. It hardens within an hour. Lasts very long. The gloves I use are now like 3 seasons old (20+ days in a season) and I only had to do smaller fixes on them in certain points were they started to wear out (fingertips, etc). For the smaller fixes I use black neoprene glue, comes in small tubes, easier to handle than Sika products. Sika can also be used on jackets / pants. Frame the surface you want to protect (forearms, knees, hips) with some tape, so that the edge of the treated surface will look nice. Make sure the piece you want to treat is laid out flat on a table or on the ground, apply the glue as explained above. The surface you'll get will look like it was alway part of the jacket / pants. Make sure your jacket / pants have some matching colors, so no one will notice the small tuning :) Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvetico Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 +1 Level gloves. No problems in two seasons. I wear the full Biomex wrist guards under mittens on hideously cold days. I'd look into lower body protection if I were you: coccyx, hips and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Anyone "THE EXPERT" wud mind share some pixs how it looks after the sika application...(thin/thick??) Need to prep my nxt gloves for this season, thanks alot... Let it be snow... RT:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Funny commment "Taking groomers with your PARENTS" 4:24 All in all not a bad video of the mechanics of a wrist injury. Hey, I resemble some of those xrays!! <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xyB0V8tcL2g?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Anyone "THE EXPERT" wud mind share some pixs how it looks after the sika application...(thin/thick??) Need to prep my nxt gloves for this season, thanks alot...Let it be snow... RT:o You'd better make more thinner applications so it will hold better/dry better. I mixed the Sika up with nailremover first. It's a very sticky job anyway To cover the stitches is the most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 You'd better make more thinner applications so it will hold better/dry better.I mixed the Sika up with nailremover first. It's a very sticky job anyway To cover the stitches is the most important. Hartelijk bedankt for the pixs. Yep, definetely will cover the stiches. Next question (if u don't mind): How many layers did u apply with mixed SIKA... RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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