bgarfield Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm looking for a particular type of board, but because I've been out of the loop, I don't know what's been made or being made. I've been riding since '86, instructed and raced in the early 90's, and then was not "in the know" between '97-'07. What I mean by this is that I had the same '96 board, rode a few times a year at most, and didn't know anything about the latest boards. I've always loved to lay down the "chest hair carve", but I also enjoy and am proficient at freestyle/jumps. Since I've gotten back into it seriously again (my kids are now good riders), I bought a new Sims Protocol 157 to get some newer technology. However, although a fine freestyle board, I miss actual low carving. That all said, I'm looking for the best board possible to accomplish great carves but yet still want to ride Switch, Fakie, backwards... whatever the younger set is calling it. Essentially, I'd love a board that almost as stiff as a race board, but has a rounded nose and tail? It can't be worthless in powder, but I won't see it on a regular basis. Thanks, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinpa Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Maybe a boarderX board? (By the way, I knew you back then! I had sent you an email through here!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnuts514 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 sounds like your looking for the holy grail of snowboards my friend! ha j/k I'm sure someone will chime in, these guys know their stuff. welcome back! my .02 cents, get a dedicated carving board. since you already have a new freestyle board. EDIT: on second thought, maybe a prior 4wd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgarfield Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 The signs seem to be leading me toward a BX board, but I wanted to get the opinions of many. Plus, it's not that easy to find those boards either. Admittedly, I'd like to not get spend crazy as I just bought a board last year and bought my wife's first since '94 (her wedding gift from me ) just two days ago. @kinpa - good to hear from you! The Prior 4WD did show up in my searches, so you simply commenting on it makes me want to go back and check. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 You've described the Coiler Schtubby they come around used now and then 20cm wide 171+cm long 13scr metal, great on ice, not bad in chop and do-able in pow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgarfield Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I would agree with the Coiler, but I think I'd like more nose and tail. What about this "Proto" 162 in the classifieds here? BTW, I meant to say that I'll be sticking with soft boots for now... Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnuts514 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 one more board to consider at a decent price (brand new) and ordered to fit, I like the donek incline for a softy setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 A Donek axxess will fit the bill as an all mountain ruler much better than the incline and be better in pow and/or switch. Any built for BX board would also be versatile enough for the riding you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnuts514 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 ^^^yeah good call, looking at the specs again, the axxess does look like a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcarver Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Donek Incline is great at carving in softies. Can do about everything else too. Wouldn't be that great in the park but would work. Otherwise a freeride board could work. I used an Arbor A-frame a few years ago. Carves decent and I was doing 50-50s on handrails with it. A twin tip with soft flex would do much better in the park though. Most freeride or carving boards are directional and stiff. They will launch well but you better land straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Donek Saber http://www.donek.com/saber_carve.html Prior BX http://www.priorsnowboards.com/boards_bx.php Or if you want to spend >$1500, a Kessler Cross. http://www.kessler-swiss.com/en-US/pages/products/snowboard/theCross/presentation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Admittedly, I'd like to not get spend crazy... Steepwater. Carves as good as it gets for a non-metal freeride board, managable in park, rides pow great, very stable at speed with 11.5m scr. New ones sometimes go on sale for $300. Modern BX boards would carve even better, but would set you back few $ more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with the Donek Axxess recommendations. I have two, and I ride backward quite a bit. They have enough of a tail to them that I have no worries at all, on any terrain. I am seriously considering ordering my next one with two tails, rather than two noses. If you like to ride fast, there's a variation of the 172 Axxess that has a 13m radius. That's mine, it's listed as 08Waddoups172AX on their specs page. It's narrower than the other Axxess boards, at 19cm, but it still has more float than most skiers get. And you can get whatever dimensions you want for an extra couple hundred bucks. Plus you get your name in their catalog. :) http://www.donek.com/specs_hard.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 That Proto will do you good:biggthump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 BTW, I meant to say that I'll be sticking with soft boots for now... Axxess and 4WD won't be good for softboots unless you like high angles or have small feet. What size are your dogs? Sweet method on the ol' CK Air by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Swoard Dual since you like laying it down too. You can have both hard boots or soft boots set up on it. Works both on groom and powder. And other than booting out on softboot backside, you should be able to EC with it on hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgarfield Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm a 9.5 boot, so not too big. Considering soft boots are lower and hang over easier, what wait line do you figure would best work? I normally ride at about 15 front, 5 rear on a freestyle board. I'm thinking I don't want to go too extreme since I'll be doing plenty of jumps, so probably 25 front, 15 rear at most. I've got my eye on some options that are popping up: Burton BX 165 Palmer Carbon Crown 164 Proto 162 F2 Eliminator WC Edition 165 cm Donek Incline Donek Saber Sims Daytona Thoughts? BTW Jack, digging that Coiler, my first race board was a Safari! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 BTW, I meant to say that I'll be sticking with soft boots for now... Whoops. Forget everything I just wrote. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 You might want to check out a Rad Air Tanker also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm a 9.5 boot, so not too big. Considering soft boots are lower and hang over easier, what wait line do you figure would best work? I normally ride at about 15 front, 5 rear on a freestyle board. I'm thinking I don't want to go too extreme since I'll be doing plenty of jumps, so probably 25 front, 15 rear at most. I've got my eye on some options that are popping up: Burton BX 165 Palmer Carbon Crown 164 Proto 162 F2 Eliminator WC Edition 165 cm Donek Incline Donek Saber Sims Daytona Proto 162 will be way too narrow. It's a hardboot board. Burton BX, Fussion? Probably too narrow, too. Same goes to Incline. Is Daytona produced again? Otherwise, it's an old board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarder_Ted Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Proto 162 will be way too narrow. It's a hardboot board. Burton BX, Fussion? Probably too narrow, too. Same goes to Incline. Is Daytona produced again? Otherwise, it's an old board... Actually Sean can do a custom shape on the Incline for no additional money! I just got one with a 253 waist width and a continuously variable, 8-10 meter sidecut radius. Cost: $550. For what it's worth, I have a size 9 foot and ride 24 degrees front, 12 rear with no overhang. And it's a sweet board. A bit heavy but it rails like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxjas38 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Brian, I just got a Donek Saber, you are welcome to try it out but it may be to narrow for softboots. 20cm waist. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtslalom Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 bgarfield, I think you might be interested in the board I just got. It is called a Status snowboard. Here is the website address. http://www.statussnow.com I come from a carving background and have recently switched back to soft riding to experience the best of carving and freeriding. This board is the nicest soft carving deck I have been on since switching back 6 years ago. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Swoard DUAL is the board your looking for. I just got my 163 DUAL ridden it once and it is the best snowboard I have ever ridden. I also have a prior ATV 161 that is also an amazing board it can do anything you want it to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgarfield Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Everyone's posts have been very helpful, much appreciated, and educational. As I explored more, I really like what I found with the Donek, and spoke to Sean on Friday. I'm big on the idea of speaking with the owner about my experience, and having that same person build my board for me, all with the added bonus of being custom in size and appearance with a very reasonable cost. I'm not completely done with the specs yet, but here's what I'm likely to be doing: Donek Incline 163-165 ish - I'd like something slightly larger than the average for my size. 25cm waist - Measured out my current board with the boots and bindings I'll be using and I definitely can't go smaller with the angles I want, around 27/21. I had posted less angle earlier, but that was before changing the binding around to see what I could live with. Given the above, can anyone think of a spec that I could change but haven't thought of? @Jason, thanks for the offer, but the angles I would need at that waist width is not in the range I'd like to duplicate, although we should get together to tear it up soon! Thanks, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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