Mike T Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I voted w/ the length of the board in my quiver that I would keep if I could only keep one... ... but honestly, length is an afterthought for me. I've been on so many long boards that "ride short" and short boards that "ride long". To the point where "rides short" and "rides long" aren't all that meaningful to me anymore. Coiler Schtubby 171 vs Classic 177 or 179 w/ same sidecut? It's all in the flex and feel, not the length. (Yes, the effective edge length on those are closer than the overall length might indicate, different nose shapes...) but that just furthers the point. People buying freestyle boards get hung up over a few cm, I laugh because I've had boards from (Madd) 158 (really more like a 155 if you measure) to (Coiler SG) 196 that have all been "the right length". My previous softie board was a 171 and my current one is a 192 and the length difference didn't take any getting used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 PRIOR WCRM-173 WIDE COOL board, thanks to Blueb suggestion. This board replace my 4WD, carve as an race board, float on slush, chops. The lower angle setting on the bindings for my MP27 make possible to play on most POW condition. 173 is good length thru (crowded) "meat gates". This board 90% will be carried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 added a poll. Lots of entries already... Did you enter the stuff based on our previous answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Lots of entries already... Did you enter the stuff based on our previous answers? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 With a 35m SCR it isn't easy to bent it a 235cm chord of a 35m circle will have a segment height of 1.9cm ... so there's plenty of sidecut clearance built into this deck for decambering into. With 117.5 cm of board for leverage on either of that chord's center the board would have to be monumentally stiff to make it inflexible ... just sayin' ... that board should be pretty easy to decamber, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 a 235cm chord of a 35m circle will have a segment height of 1.9cm ... so there's plenty of sidecut clearance built into this deck for decambering into. With 117.5 cm of board for leverage on either of that chord's center the board would have to be monumentally stiff to make it inflexible ... just sayin' ... that board should be pretty easy to decamber, actually. You can only "adjust" a board's turning radius so much. The sidecut radius is the baseline for that adjustment. 35m is a hella big number - more than double the average radius of my NSR 185 (which has a 2.23cm sidecut depth over the 169cm effective edge). I've squeezed my NSR down some pretty narrow trails, but I highly doubt you could squeeze this thing down any normal eastern US trail. You would need a massive and empty snowfield to enjoy it. Maybe he has that. In those EC videos it looks like a board like this could be used at Zinal, or some such similar wide open place. I'd like to see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 You can only "adjust" a board's turning radius so much. The sidecut radius is the baseline for that adjustment. 35m is a hella big number - more than double the average radius of my NSR 185 (which has a 2.23cm sidecut depth over the 169cm effective edge). I've squeezed my NSR down some pretty narrow trails, but I highly doubt you could squeeze this thing down any normal eastern US trail. You would need a massive and empty snowfield to enjoy it. Maybe he has that. In those EC videos it looks like a board like this could be used at Zinal, or some such similar wide open place. I'd like to see it! I wasn't saying it would turn super tight ... I was just saying it shouldn't be all that hard to decamber it. Certainly, this board is going to make bigger turns, and probably needs a bit more speed to get turning ... no disagreement there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tscherno-Bill Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 ...... that board should be pretty easy to decamber, actually. You think so but it isn't... (70m circle, 35m radius) The EC-Track (Zinal) has not enough space . While the Opening this Season in Sölden i had some weight-centered full laydown-turns like these: and This Oxess is simply evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I really want to see a picture of you riding this beast! Or if that doesn't exist, you standing next to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Nope. Ok, just didn't want to double-vote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (70m circle, 35m radius) Hey man ... I'm not saying it's not a challenging board to ride, I'm sure it's a handful. I'm just saying it shouldn't be all that hard to decamber it. Are you suggesting that this board makes turns with a 70m diameter because it has a 35m sidecut radius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I picked a 165-169 length, because For me it's the best compromise for all types of terrain: steeps, moguls, ice, trees, powder, as well as carving the groomers. It also tends to be the longest size of board that I can comfortably strap onto a pack when I go into the backcountry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrutton Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I put 175cm as thats what's been my main and only alpine stick for the last 15 years or so, except for the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 I'm really loving my Coiler 167 VSR as I ride it more and more. This is the demo board with the blunt nose and the black/grey checkerplate graphics that made the circuit to SES and ECES. It makes a huge variety of turn shapes quite comfortably - much larger than it's radius (average 10.5m) would seem to indicate. I'm usually on narrow runs with lots of people and iffy grooming, but this board still holds it's own on open/wide runs. When I know the runs are going to be wide and have fewer people this 167 gets left on the rack for the bigger 182 Monster, but that's pretty rare for me at nearby resorts. When I get to go to the mountains I pick the 182 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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