OhD Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Check out this instructional (?) video. http://www.trails.com/video_342_carve-snowboard.html Our hero encounters exactly two other people on a pitch and manages to buzz both of them (the second instance isn't so bad but the first one is pretty dumb). Must be keeping an eye on the mirror... or maybe he's just not used to riding in such a crowd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 "That's Carving" I think a "reply" video of "That's Carving" would be fun. ?? <div><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://cdn-www.expertvillage.com/player.swf?flv=snowboarding-advanced-techniques-carving" id="ev_player" width="491" height="424" ><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="movie" value="http://cdn-www.expertvillage.com/player.swf?flv=snowboarding-advanced-techniques-carving" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /></object><p><a href="http://www.trails.com/video_342_carve-snowboard.html" target="_blank">How to Carve on a Snowboard</a> - Courtesy of Trails.com</p></div> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 That's not carving, that's lazy edging in socks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 He seems so pleased with himself though. It's not bad for the internet really though. The stance does look odd - it really is toilet sitting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertrash Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Is that what folks in Aspen on softboots call carving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 He seems so pleased with himself though. He sure does. I think he was having an "I'm on video" moment with the other riders. In fairness to him though, that video is not made for us and it is good to see any decent introduction to carving video for beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Even I know that's not carving and I have only been hard-booting for only 11 outings. But I appreciate his enthusiasm, I think he was so into trying to film & concentrate that he had "blinders" on. He should have had a few other folks mare familiar with carving look at his video and give feedback, it lacked content about the necessary equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 It was definitely carving, I think it's generally where most riders plateau (those that are lucky to climb that high, few do) without serious pipe coaching or plate experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Even I know that's not carving and I have only been hard-booting for only 11 outings. He is absolutely carving. It is low angle and on softboots, but he is definitely carving. Look at his track when the angle of the camera is right, they are carved tracks. The tracks don't lie. True though, the title is misleading. There was nothing in the video about how to carve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Better than your average jibber, at low speed anyway... he leaves a carve. But when he picks up speed the small sidecut on his lunch tray makes it all go to hell. Kind of like cornering a VW bus over 50 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Kind of like cornering a VW bus over 50 mph. :lol:love that analogy. Been there done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It was definitely carving, I think it's generally where most riders plateau (those that are lucky to climb that high, few do) without serious pipe coaching or plate experience correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Better than your average jibber, at low speed anyway... he leaves a carve.But when he picks up speed the small sidecut on his lunch tray makes it all go to hell. Kind of like cornering a VW bus over 50 mph. Where do you see anything going to hell? Granted, it's on squeaky CO snow, but it always looks controlled, even when he almost hit the snowboarder. The spray means he either feathered the edge and started carving again or did a quick radius change. I'd not be proud after such a stupid move, but he did correct rather well. He's ducked out and on a Burton Custom that can't be more than 160cm; can't expect him to be dragging hips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Where do you see anything going to hell? . Seriously?? The party was over when he stopped riding his edges. He could have bled off some speed by going uphill and then continued the slower controlled 7 meter or whatever dicing carves that he was doing pretty well...Those scuffed turns are freaking white bread. Who cares if he drops the hip either? Just edge the damn board. WTF is with all the softboot nonsense this year? Trolls, all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertrash Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 To me, there is a speed control component to carving that can't really be demonstrated on a easy trail. Sure he may have made a few turns where he was up on his edge, big deal. You can fake it on a flat trail because you won't get going that fast. The last turn he makes back up to the camera is about the only one that looks worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Seriously??The party was over when he stopped riding his edges. He could have bled off some speed by going uphill and then continued the slower controlled 7 meter or whatever dicing carves that he was doing pretty well...Those scuffed turns are freaking white bread. Who cares if he drops the hip either? Just edge the damn board. WTF is with all the softboot nonsense this year? Trolls, all of you. I still don't see what you're talking about... At what point do you see this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 What's wrong with you guys? This kind of thing should be encouraged, not trashed. This is an instructional video for soft boots, for begginers, and it serves that purpose very well. It meets riding standards (for that level) of CASI and I belive AASI. His stance is good, turn anticipation by small rotation is there, angulation is there, initiation in the lower body is there, he's in control all the time, even when he foolishly goes close to another rider. He doesn't ride very high edge angle and so what? Would you expect a begginer to drag his knee/hip right away? No? Ok, then you don't ride that way when demonstrating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 "That's Carving" Thanks for sharing the vid. Cheers RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtslalom Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's difficult to criticize any softbooter when you are a hard booter. Almost everything seems sloppy, though that guy isn't bad. He can drive a good line for a duck footed soft booter. Hope to see every one at ECES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Why do some of you feel the need to be elitist pricks? So he's not in hardboots. Whoopdedoo. He is carving. Nothing dynamic, but he is on edge. And doing what the video intended: showing people what carving on a snowboard looks like. And Steve, yes, that is carving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhD Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I agree - his riding is pretty clean and proficient, and one wouldn't expect to see laid out turns given the pitch and speed. My gripes were that he doesn't have much of any value to say in terms of "how to", and his navigating leaves a lot to be desired. Otherwise, it was a nice demo of what someone might want to learn at the Aspen school, so as a little marketing teaser it's probably just what was wanted. He had to make a little out-of-rhythm turn to avoid the second close encounter, probably because the skier did something unexpected. At their relative speeds, he should have been far enough away that the little turn wouldn't have been necessary, IMHO. It's probably a good thing he's good enough to throw a little last moment turn whenever needed, every time.... It's perfectly possible to pull a fully laid-out turn in softboots, as long as you don't have any overhang. THere aren't many boards wide enough to handle big feet at reasonable duck-stance angles, which is another reason you don't see many people riding in hard bumps. Booting out every time you cross the bottom side of a mogul gets pretty frustrating, and unless you have stout boot toes, painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 What's wrong with you guys? This kind of thing should be encouraged, not trashed. This is an instructional video for soft boots, for begginers, and it serves that purpose very well. It meets riding standards (for that level) of CASI and I belive AASI. His stance is good, turn anticipation by small rotation is there, angulation is there, initiation in the lower body is there, he's in control all the time, even when he foolishly goes close to another rider. He doesn't ride very high edge angle and so what? Would you expect a begginer to drag his knee/hip right away? No? Ok, then you don't ride that way when demonstrating... +1 Well said BlueB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Really? Is this what we choose to complain about? Must be a slow news day or people are all pissed off cause they arent going to the session. Ditto what JC said. Get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 At least this guy was actually carving, not like this one I'm sure many of us remember... <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WennXcKYfHk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WennXcKYfHk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfell Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The instructer is caving better turns than about 90% of the videos I've seen here posted by hardbooters. Is it powerful??? Nope. Are his fundamentals sound??? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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