inkaholic Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 What are those 3 bindings in the pic above please, left to right, and merits for soft boot carving. I believe the Dupraz and Nidecker have Nidecker bindings and the Kessler has Phioka. Not sure of model numbers or names. Ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Yellow/black Nideckers should be the Carbon 800, or whatever the name they gave them in the last generation. Great binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I believe the Dupraz and Nidecker have Nidecker bindings and the Kessler has Phioka. Not sure of model numbers or names.Ink I concur, always wanted to try those phiokkas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 did you guys see the new bindings with suspension at SIA? Interesting idea, they are made of magnesium:eek: www.manicsnow.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 My large Co2's weigh 1148g each Is that so? Oh bugger, I estimated the weight of my '06-'07 CO2 medium I had based on salomon '08-'09 SPX caliber medium (945g). Obviously I'm very likely to be wrong again, after exaggerating the weight difference between CO2 and FR2! I'll properly measure up both bindings at some stage. Bola, please accept my apology for being erroneous, on top of the other things. After all, all this fuss wouldn't have started if I were not so pig-headed... And I believe FR2 is the best binding for softboot carving in the market at the moment. I'll probably focus on hardboot carving now (and probably stay away from any softboot carving thread indefinitely for my own good), now that I've got some new alpine toys (SW, Swoard)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnasmo Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 This doesn't belong on BOL, but Flows have come up in this thread. FYI, 2010 Flow NXT-FRX on sale for 50% off March 1st and 2nd at SierraSnowboard.com. That's $175. Hold out a while longer and they may go to 70%... or be sold out. It's really the only model left in the flow line that still competes with the Nidecker Carbons or Catek Freerides in support and stiffness. (I sold my Nidecker's this year; just using Flows) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrob Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Despite the sales pitch on the flow site, how does it really differ from the NXT-AT? can you change the angle of the highback to use with a more forward facing stance (not lean)? Are the buckles any stronger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnasmo Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Despite the sales pitch on the flow site, how does it really differ from the NXT-AT?can you change the angle of the highback to use with a more forward facing stance (not lean)? Are the buckles any stronger? The NXT-AT is pretty flexible all around. The FRX highback will be considerably stiffer. Not so noticeable front to back, but stiffer from twisting, which will be noticeable if you start increasing angles. Plus, it's a multi-piece thing where the top of the highback can be rotated slightly to suit higher binding angles. The biggest difference is that the FRX strap is way more supportive than the AT strap. It's still an I-flex shape, so not as supportive as a few years ago, but this one is way beefier than anything else in their lineup. The baseplate might have a higher durometer padding underneath, but the other hardware is probably the same. Burton C60's are half-off too, if that's more you style. I just don't like dealing with straps anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin42 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 +1 for the NXT-F anything Also can still find 32 forcasts around (somesizes). Plus cheap cants http://www.ezshim.com/where2buy/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Does anyone have experience with Union bindings? Specifically the Force SL's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrob Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Thanks Johnasmo, I'll get a pair. Ronin; please explain how you use those shims with e.g. the soft bindings, e.g.Flow-frx. Someone (French M?) was on about benefits of rear foot heel lift with soft setups with carving angles. I think it was on the other more recent soft setup thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecshredder Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Bola, how do you like your Ultralight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilmour Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Does anyone have experience with Union bindings? Specifically the Force SL's. currently I own and use 3 soft bindings Catek FR2 -rossignol judge 159 (makes me have more edge hold using the Catek) Union Force DLX 2006 (Rossignol Judge 168) 2009 Rome david Bowie binding. (Salomon 160cm Sick stick) The Union Sl is almost identical to the Older DLX except with softer ankle straps IIRC. Union bindings buckles have springs that give out over time. I get about a season out of a set of buckles. The Rome binding seems to hold well with less strap pressure than the Unions binding straps. The Catek FR2 give me the most cutting power on icy condtions, but have less dampening over end of the day rutted stuff. I use Union Straps on my FR2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thanks for info John, how do you like them as a freeride/carve binding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Rover Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Man....you guys are TOO into numbers and angles and gizmos....!! Just get on your board and RIDE. save the physics for the classroom. ;) The mountain is waioting. Gravity IS life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilmour Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thanks for info John, how do you like them as a freeride/carve binding? The Unions...? I like them. I even can EC in them....which I can not do in Burtons or flows. I particularly like that I can position the toe strap at different angles so I actually pin different joints on each foot to prevent roll. Also I use the sliding heel cup and sliding gas pedal to adjust for Gilmour Bias without giving up my micro adjustment slots in front and rear stance width. Here is how I strap in...as if anyone cares.... I ride with both bindings angled ....45 front and less in the rear.....both highbacks fully rotated..with more highback lean on the rear than the front (front is on almost straightest notch- the idea being to pre position your knees to reduce lag time when going edge to edge (most highback lean on the rear means your rear knee is over the toe edge more and you will be able to pedal your rear highback to change turn radius easier on the heelside) . a good amount of of Gilmour Bias too with the heel cups..) Get the board up on the heel edge about 25- 40 degrees... put your front foot in...and crank on the ankle strap until your toe rises off the binding almost an inch. Finish your front binding then do the same for rear binding. Using the toe straps I pin between the big knuckles of the front big toe with the front binding - with toe strap going diagonally from that big toe knuckle to little toe following the "toe line up- though ending slightly inward of the pinky toe) and the pinky toe of the rear foot with the rear binding toe strap gets pinned straight across without a diagonal....... I keep cranking until you feel it pinned strongly to the board. To me..... it almost feels like a hard boot when I clip in this way- SUPER RESPONSIVE. BTW I hate toe cap straps.. they don't let you pin down your foot bio-mechanically the same way. I just tested this one day on a carpet while watching TV ..and tried to find what prevented inner foot rotation- this is what works for me So try this out on the carpet.. it works....prevents roll completely and gives you very quick edge to edge response similar to hard boots.....in some ways faster response since there is less weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnasmo Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hate to resurrect this of all threads, but if you ARE looking for soft bindings for freecarving, I just put a pair of what was one of Flows most supportive bindings ever on the For Sale forum. http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34139 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertoMI Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just put this set up together this year. Wow, it actually is not bad. I picked up a 95 Asym Air 164. With 40-45 degree angles I was able to carve like a madman (for softboots anyway) It was warm, comfortable, and easy to hold an edge. I was not comfy at higher speeds, but I was able to lay em down and dig some trenches. A couple coiler guys I ran into gave me the nod for even trying it. The high angles are good with stiffer boots. Not as bad as you would have thought. L- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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