Chubz Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Teach I guess I do go a bit deeper when I tune. I remove bindings and discs. I do a cold rub with the wax , then iron it and apply some extra drops in dry areas. But dont put on too thick, just enough to moisten the base. It then scrap and then brass brush and plastic brush from front to back of the board 8-10 strokes per area. I have had suction before too and have seen where the triaxial base pattern allows for release of the base. I think today may have just been one of those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 gman, most of my boards seem to be 0/0. When you say 1/1 do you mean measured from the base, and perpendicular to the base, so the angle made by the edges is a right angle, or is the side edge measured relative to the base edge, so you have an 89 degree angle at the edge? I think opening up this discussion would bring people with different favorite procedures optimized for different snow conditions, potentially making it more confusing. Chubz, gman, do you both try to brush all the wax out of the structure? Do you use cold wax near the edges? How often do you wax? Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 yes, one and one makes a 90 degree angle on the edge, just canted one degree toward the center of the board on the side and one degree toward the top sheet on the base. Very durable and the standard for most tuning applications. The kids on the race team get 3 degree side bevel but they are in every week for a new tune. I tune my board with 2 degree side bevel (or 88, depending on how you look at it). As far as wax goes, I have no idea what the composition of the base is on my ancient Rossignol, but I suspect it is an extruded base that doesn't need or take much wax, low maintenance, but not as fast. My soft set up has a sintered base and I wax it quite often. It gets hot waxed before every snow storm, which is just about every time I ride it since I only ride it when we have pow. On both my boards I use Swix LF 7 fluorinated wax. It has a temp rating from 18-28 degrees which is good 90% of the time here at blue. It is also priced on the low end for fluorinated wax, I think we sell it for $15 for 60 grams. I may switch to a warmer temp wax as the season goes on. I don't bother with the powder wax (cocaine of the ski industry), or mixing waxes. As for my method, I wax my board by coating the iron with wax by rubbing a block on it, then rubbing the coated iron on to the board. I repeat until the entire board has been coated (Be sure to keep the iron moving or you will scorch your base). After the board is coated and wax sufficiently ironed in, I allow the wax to cool, but not all the way to room temperature (this makes scraping easier). I then scrape the board with a plastic blade to remove the excess wax, and then use the buffer on our machine waxer to buff out the rest. I suppose if I didn't have the buffer at my disposal I would use a nylon brush. You can't buff your board too much. You can, however waste wax by using too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 am i the only one not at ECES or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 No. I can't even bring myself to read the reports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorris Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I could not go either with my broken ankle. But there really are no pictures or reports yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 gman2010, please email me when you get a chance, jp1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I just got an email from a friend that Blue Mtn. will be closing for the season on 3-21-10 :( I hope this isn't true, maybe gman2010 can confirm if this is fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sadly I have to confirm, 3/21 is the scheduled closing date, with the possibility that we open again the following weekend 3/26-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 what happened to everyone? the snow has been great last two days for the first 3 hours. Get off your lazy butts and come out before it is too late! I'll be up tomorrow bright and early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I'll be there Wednesday for first tracks, may even bring out the FP and do 'the steps' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykcuz Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 conditions on friday were the best i have ever seen. perfect temp, nice hard corduroy that slightly loosened as the day warmed. and plenty of honeys with questions. you didnt miss much dont worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think i suck then. I was there friday morning and thought it was awful - It was all thick-grained sugar that I could not set an edge in for the life of me. Probably a better description: tiny ice balls that would not pack down, just move around. The bottom of a lot of the trails were so bumpy that I was getting tossed. MAYBE it was because I was there in the morning and stuff was still frozen? Would have been fun in the soft setup, though. I will be there this friday haha, probably. not ready to give up the season yet. I keep hearing rumors about another snowstorm coming but I can't find any evidence for this - anyone else hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 a little late in the conversation but for what it's worth: I do a cold wax rub on first then apply an all-temp layer on that with the iron. I don't scrape because frankly I don't notice a difference, at least not one that matters. I used to scrape and that just meant more waxing, more mess and less base protection. my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubz Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I think mykcuz was referring to Friday at ECES. Wed thursday and Friday we all unreal conditions. I dont think I have ever seen snow hold up to that many carvers clear to last chair at 4pm. Great times great turns!!! Hopefully Blue holds up for another below freezing spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I probably should have looked up this word before posting: "Glance" - A brief or cursory look; To look briefly (at something); To graze a surface... no but seriously if anyone needs to bake there's a lot of sugar at blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 last friday it WAS all sugary and it sucked, but last thursday was beautiful and so were monday and tuesday this week Razors edge was still good at 11 today when I left, but everything else was a little too soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 PS: jp1 don't get your hopes up on the steps, they ripped them out yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 "PS: jp1 don't get your hopes up on the steps, they ripped them out yesterday." That figures, I mounted bindings on the FP just for them, oh well, mini bmes in morning.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Greg...JP has the Cateks...$125 plus shipping if you want them (you can pay him). He said he could ship or you two could meet at Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 been gone... any hope for this morning? Based on gman's report and the fact that it can be better than you'd think at Blue I may try my luck today. Anyone going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 gonna be leaving in about 15 minutes and riding open to 11 ish glenn, thanks I have already been in contact with jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Way better than I expected today. Great to finally meet you, NickG! Pretty nice trenches you left. Keeping fingers crossed for tomorrow, hoping the temperature drops a bit and no rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teach Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 It's not raining here ... can't tell from weather.com or blue's site whether it's raining there. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 it's raining :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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