Ray(ottawa) Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 The lift attendants at my area keep referring to what I ride as a "speed board". I smile and nod my head. If such a thing were to exist, is there some combination of length, width, shape, surface area, etc., that would make one board faster than another and would actually have more importance than wax, base material and preparation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Wouldn't it be much the same as speed skis - long, damp as hell, stiff, no sidecut to speak of, low tip profile? I also speculate a big base bevel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ur13 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Wouldn't it be much the same as speed skis - long, damp as hell, stiff, no sidecut to speak of, low tip profile? I also speculate a big base bevel. Burton made that once. Andy Coghlan's Safari 210s were just that. Not to mention they weighed as much as a Cadillac which helped to "go fast". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The volkl that set the speed record was that (with air slots cut out of the nose to reduce drag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian M Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 ...at least they don't think it's a monoski. :D Really, though, boards with hard boots are better suited to handle high speed, so maybe we're all riding speed boards. You're in Ottawa, eh? Maybe it's 'cause the lifties saw me riding! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronG Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 The volkl that set the speed record was that (with air slots cut out of the nose to reduce drag) I think the holes were cut out of the nose not to reduce drag but to keep the tip down on the snow. Going that fast on a snowboard I would think the the ram air effect would tend to lift the nose of the board reducing your running surface, thereby, reducing speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I get 'speed board' comments about 5:1 over anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanZ Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 reducing your running surface, thereby, reducing speed. why would reducing your "running surface" reduce your speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 More area to minimize deflection, thereby increasing stability? Every little bit of energy used to lift you from the snow when you hit a bump is more energy that could've been used to make you go faster. Aaron might have something a bit more clear as to why he posted that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arclite Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 ...at least they don't think it's a monoski. :D :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 ...at least they don't think it's a monoski. :D ...far as we know, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 why would reducing your "running surface" reduce your speed? I think it's just the higher the nose the larger a profile you are showing to the wind, thereby increasing wind resistance. If your board is 19cm wide and the nose lifts up 1cm, you've increased your profile by ~19 square centimeters. Also, by drilling holes in the right place on the nose, you're also probably also decreasing your profile slightly as well as probably doing something to reduce turbulence (dimples on a golf ball?) or some crap like that. I have no idea what I'm talking about, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK moscraciun Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 check here! http://www.pogo.biz/indexE.htm and here 200+km/h http://www.worldsfastestsnowboarder.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 check here!http://www.pogo.biz/indexE.htm What a crazy site. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 You have to do a bit of investigating, but if you click on the big tall alpine board in the top rack you get a picture of a speed record being broken. also clicking on the airplane looking thing above the fooseball table gives you a picture of insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me jack Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 i think it's basically be a short narrow board, with a longer side cut; when i "race" my friends on 145-155 park board, then usually will win, and i think it's because they have a lower surface area. by race i mean, we bomb down the hill in a straigh line... it's really cool :rolleyes: edit: by the way most of the liftys where i ride, just take a long stair at my board and say "thats a different kinda snowboard ant it?" ... I just reallized how funny that way lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I also get "hard board". Then I explain that it's the boots that are hard, not the board. I love little kid's reactions. They all think the setup is super cool. That lasts until they are about 13. Then they think the setup is super lame. Then when they are 35, they think it's super cool again. Mostly because they are sick of nutting themselves on the rails in the terrain park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Q. Is that hard? A. It takes hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomoto Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I think the holes were cut out of the nose not to reduce drag but to keep the tip down on the snow. Going that fast on a snowboard I would think the the ram air effect would tend to lift the nose of the board reducing your running surface, thereby, reducing speed.Anyone remember Dynasart Omoflow skis? These were the first pair of new skis I ever had. They had a hole in the tip with a plastic piece over it that directed air on to the topsheet for better snow contact. As if the skis were capable of speeds of 20mph or more. lol It was the perfect solution for their piece of **** foam core construction!! I snapped the tail off of one of them skiing bumps. I think they came out around the mid-1980s. Not much good ever came out of the 80s except for maybe Reaganomics. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I also get "hard board". Then I explain that it's the boots that are hard, not the board.I love little kid's reactions. They all think the setup is super cool. I get this too!! I think it's hysterical!! Little tykes just go ape**** over alpine equipment. I have a red donek with the metallic topsheet, that I used to ride with silver-mylar military issue firefighters pants and I think they thought I was some kind of superhero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.T. Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I think the holes were cut out of the nose not to reduce drag but to keep the tip down on the snow. x2 - lifting the nose increases drag and also increases instability. Instability at high speed = not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtanner Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Anyone remember Dynasart Omoflow skis? These were the first pair of new skis I ever had. They had a hole in the tip with a plastic piece over it that directed air on to the topsheet for better snow contact. As if the skis were capable of speeds of 20mph or more. lol It was the perfect solution for their piece of **** foam core construction!! I snapped the tail off of one of them skiing bumps. I think they came out around the mid-1980s. Not much good ever came out of the 80s except for maybe Reaganomics. lol This years world cup Fisher (I think...somthing that starts with F) have holes on their longer GS and SG skiis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I'd call the 200cm Silly Good a speed board. http://www.hardbooter.com/product_p/2009_prior.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtanner Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I got to lay my paws (and some drool) all over a Silly-Good at the Prior shop a few weeks back...it looks awesome. ..... .... .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptran11 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 The lift attendants at my area keep referring to what I ride as a "speed board". I smile and nod my head. If such a thing were to exist, is there some combination of length, width, shape, surface area, etc., that would make one board faster than another and would actually have more importance than wax, base material and preparation? IMHO, if the lift attendants keeps asking you, you should try to promote the sport and tell him what you're riding really is and how he can learn about it. You can tell him what it can really do besides speed. I'm all about promoting the sport the best you can. I hope I don't get flamed for this, The rest of the post have gone to technical board specs. If you're talking to a lift attendant or a random person in line you don't got the time to explain it to convince them enough to convert. Keep it short and simple to promote the sport, you only got a couple seconds sometime to promote the sport most of the time. Sometimes the bes tyou can do it point them in the right direction to do the research to get interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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