jtslalom Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 The olympic run on whiteface probably has the longest sustained steep slope in the east. Its over 4000 feet long with about a 25 degree pitch over the course of the whole run. It is also groomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff E Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 A reply from Kirkwood, Hello Jeff,<o></o> <o></o> We groom several runs from the top as you know. Within a couple of degrees, here is the information I have for the steepness of the groomed areas.<o>:p></o>:p> <o></o> The Wall 42 degrees<o></o> Monte Wolfe 38 degrees<o></o> Zachary 36 degrees<o></o> Olympic 38 degrees<o></o> <o></o> Anything else that we groom would be less steep. Hope this is helpful.<o></o> <o></o> <st1>Dave Myers</st1><o></o> VP Mountain Operations<o></o> <o></o><o></o> I <o>have never seen them groom the wall, but I only go there midweek. It sure would be a nice wide, open run. </o> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hey Jeff, Check out the chutes at Mt. Rose - 40-55 degrees http://www.mtrose.com/on_the_mountain/chutes.php http://www.mtrose.com/snow/snow_report.php Check tahoecarvers forum, Tae Kim is the guy at Mt. Rose that rides the chutes all season as well as back county carving too. I rode with him about a month ago at Rose just before leaving for the OES. --Hugh Guest Rescue in Progress is another way of saying, "Man Down" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccidentalChef Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 The steepest groomed run I can think of in Colorado is Corona Bowl at Eldora. It's quite wide for most of the run, but they usually do leave a mogul strip off to rider's left. I don't know how long or steep exactly, I can't find the info, but I would guess 800 or so feet and 35 - 40 degress for the main part of the run. Maybe Bola knows. When I rode softies back in the 90s, Eldora was the mountain I spent the most time at, since my aunt lives in Nederland. I only got 5ish days a year in back then, but I was damn proud of myself the first time I made it down Corona, on my alp 163 with 3 strap Burton bindings. I'm sure none of the turns were pretty, but that hardly mattered to me at the time. I do remember the run being steep enough that falling could result in sliding a pretty significant distance down the slope before I managed to stop myself. I'll feel good about my carving ability the day I get down Corona without skidding a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'll feel good about my carving ability the day I get down Corona without skidding a turn. I never managed to do that. Couldn't work the heelsides well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDY_2_Carve Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Next would be something like International at Crested Butte. I know they winch cat that run. I'll have to agree here-some nice groomed steeps at CB! I have yet to experience anything steeper in NM/CO, but I also missed the Ajax day at SES 06. Carving International was quite good, but it was dust on crust on that side of the mountain so we only hit it a few times. Ruby Chief right off the Paradise lift was epic. Perfect pitch and plenty wide for the 12m+ boards. Actually anything off the Paradise lift was amazing, and the lift itself is the fastest lift I've ever ridden hands down. Now I know the true meaning of "high speed quad". :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Starfire at Keystone also has some pretty steep pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalrob08 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I dont have any pictures to upload at the moment but I doubt you guys have even heard Of The Mount Shasta Ski Park. It is small, Only three lifts, with three seperate Hills. If you ever come to Northern California in the winter... A ticket is cheap ($35-40) and we have some great alpine terrain. Many steep pitches, Many!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulk Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 found this on a friends photo album..had to share! soooo gooood! March '08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmaron Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 From the Lutsen Mountains Winter E-Newsletter (10/31/2008): "The Plunge is Back!: Making its comeback as the steepest run in Mid-America, The Plunge redefines expert terrain in the Midwest with winch-cat grooming on a 90% slope." :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 From the Lutsen Mountains Winter E-Newsletter (10/31/2008):"The Plunge is Back!: Making its comeback as the steepest run in Mid-America, The Plunge redefines expert terrain in the Midwest with winch-cat grooming on a 90% slope." :lol: I believe a 90% slope is just shy of 45 degrees - My understanding is when slopes are quoted in x% it means x feet drop over 100 feet hotizontal = so 100% slope = 45 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyride Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 From the Lutsen Mountains Winter E-Newsletter (10/31/2008):"The Plunge is Back!: Making its comeback as the steepest run in Mid-America, The Plunge redefines expert terrain in the Midwest with winch-cat grooming on a 90% slope." :lol: Hey Russ is that the Run on the backside of Moose about 1/2 way from the day lodge. Looked at that last year and it was rocky and stumpy to say the least. I would have to say if that's it, it is plenty steep even for out west standards. Wanted to give it a shot, but decided to break ribs elsewhere on the Mt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmaron Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Smart move on your part - would have been a long way back to a chair with some busted parts from that run...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 My understanding is when slopes are quoted in x% it means x feet drop over 100 feet hotizontal = so 100% slope = 45 degrees Correct. Great steeps at Sugarloaf: : Sluice Headwall, Narrow Gauge Headwall, Cribworks, Flume, White Nitro below the crosscut. Trails with good steep sections: Spillway, Sluice, Haulback, Hayburner, Upper Gondola Line, Skidder, probably a few others... GeoffV on Skidder... doesn't quite do it justice, but you know what they say about cameras and ski slopes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I believe a 90% slope is just shy of 45 degrees - My understanding is when slopes are quoted in x% it means x feet drop over 100 feet hotizontal = so 100% slope = 45 degrees Yup, just take arctan of .9 == 42 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyride Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I'll be in Duluth from Dec 18th to Jan 12th, and we're planning on gettng a season's pass to Lutsen. Didn't pay for the Spirit pass last year. Ended up going to Mont Du Lac for Tele Tuesdays, and schooling the boys on bumps. Would love to hook for for a trip to Lutsen, or maybe Spirit if I can find a pass or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 shudder....flashbacks to high school trig class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmaron Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Greg; I've got a couple of extra 4 hour tickets for Spirit; give me a call when you get to town and we'll see if we can hook up. I took my daughter out to Mont du Lac last year to go tubing and found that their senior pass (55+) is only $10, so I plan on spending some time there as well. From your profile, it looks like you don't quite qualify for this one yet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyride Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 You're very kind but I'm in my 60th year. I will give you a call, definitely. Let's do the plunge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave ESPI Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Nothing for nothing, but Jiminy Peak has a few nicely pitched areas, and Bromley in VT aswell as Killington does too. *EDIT: Jiminy has a winch cat :love:..... and now a new Piston bully 800 series this year. MID DAY GROOMS BABY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 :1luvu:winch cats:1luvu: 6 runs at schwietzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carver Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 OK,OK what is this? I thought we were all about turns on groomed runs? Does Buttermilk ring a bell? The late John Goodwin said it all when he said, "Carving is a groomed sport on runs that are boring to the expert skier" Can you say turns? Oh yeah, going back up the hill? John and I ski bumd in Sun Valley in the early 60'S. Now I know that there are many on this forum that were not born yet. Sun Valley, run for run is the over all steepest mountain in the US. We used 210 Head Vector Comps with Marker or Look Long Thong bindings. Leather lace up boots. No wonder I'm not in a wheel chair? LOL Hey, Mammoth is open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I mathed it up to find out that Avalanche at Cannon Mt has an average of 23 degrees over 2500 feet, while Paulie's Folly right next to it comes out to 26 degrees over it's 2000 feet. It's some goooooooooood riding when it's groomed (never). Paulies actually has whales on it through almost the whole season, so there are actually many lines down that push 50-60 degrees, but they're manmade and way too scary for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff E Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 OK,OK what is this? I thought we were all about turns on groomed runs? Does Buttermilk ring a bell? The late John Goodwin said it all when he said, "Carving is a groomed sport on runs that are boring to the expert skier" Can you say turns? Oh yeah, going back up the hill? John and I ski bumd in Sun Valley in the early 60'S. Now I know that there are many on this forum that were not born yet. Sun Valley, run for run is the over all steepest mountain in the US. We used 210 Head Vector Comps with Marker or Look Long Thong bindings. Leather lace up boots. No wonder I'm not in a wheel chair? LOL Hey, Mammoth is open! I thought it would be nice to have sort of a reference thread of steep groomed slopes in North America. When we travel, we can look up say Kirkwood, Ca , and say oh yeah! I'll have to try the Wall while I'm there, and see how far I can carve noskid turns at 40+ degrees! It looks like from the posts, resorts are offering alot more winch-cat groomed slopes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Now I know that there are many on this forum that were not born yet. Sun Valley, run for run is the over all steepest mountain in the US. ^^^^^^^^^ Truth spoken here. For how hard I like to carve a lot of areas are too flat and you run out of steam halfway through. Forget euro style on the flatter spots as that takes all your mo away. Upper Warm Springs, Upper Greyhawk, Upper Limelight, International all winch cat, and all will take your breath away. In the good way. Unless you do it wrong and then it kind of sucks. RIP John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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