7stg Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 donek 07/08 is up http://www.donek.com/index.htm "And we're working on more... A true-blue Soft Boot Carver has been on a lot of riders' wish lists for a while now and we're deep in development of the perfect board for everybody who yearns to rip up the groom in soft boots. More to come.." Something like the prior atv with the donek touch??? <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Wow, that is a well-designed web site. I like how all of the boards are all layed out and clicking on a board takes you to the full info page for that board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 swt does it again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartron Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I really like the new site, Sean. It's easy to navigate, it's uncluttered and the info is clear and easy to find. Great job ! 'later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 donek 07/08 is uphttp://www.donek.com/index.htm "And we're working on more... A true-blue Soft Boot Carver has been on a lot of riders' wish lists for a while now and we're deep in development of the perfect board for everybody who yearns to rip up the groom in soft boots. More to come.." Something like the prior atv with the donek touch??? <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--> <!--[endif]--> The ATV is very much like our incline series comparing specs: 171 ATV...........10m scr.........23.5cm waist.......2.5cm setback 168 incline.......10.2m scr......24.1cm waist.......2.5cm setback If you compare the two lines, you'll find that the ATV is just 6mm narrower, with very similar scr, taper, and the same setback. Both lines are extremely similar. The incline started out as our freeride model for soft boots. Most customers ride it with stiff soft boots and bindings and some use plates. I believe the ATV is marketed as a board for plates. The soft boot carver is a carving shape (more like the FC or Race) designed for soft boots. Things are also looking promising on the Titanal end. I believe we have successfully engineered the tendency to delam out of the equation. We'll be doing a bit more prototyping and should have something commercially available in 6 to 8 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Is anyone going to do any titanal freeride boards, or is delam going to be a real issue in this application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Is anyone going to do any titanal freeride boards, or is delam going to be a real issue in this application? If everything works well with this new design, I believe we will offer it on a freeride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 So, got a dumb question maybe but how well can a skilled rider carve with soft boots? Are we talking carving like the pics from SES last year or some of the extreme carving videos from the swoard guys? Or are we talking more laid back carves...best on soft snow kinda stuff? I'm not trying to start any flame wars, I just want to know how carvy a guy can get with soft boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 So, got a dumb question maybe but how well can a skilled rider carve with soft boots? Are we talking carving like the pics from SES last year or some of the extreme carving videos from the swoard guys? Or are we talking more laid back carves...best on soft snow kinda stuff? I'm not trying to start any flame wars, I just want to know how carvy a guy can get with soft boots. OK, long story, it's just that with alpine skiing I can carve the **** out of it with just about anything as far as boots are concerned. I can run my boots without buckling them and it's no problemo to carve it right up. Not exactly going to win the world cup with a loose boot but very high level carving is not any trouble at all. It is really a matter of getting yourself lined up right, it's not like a ski boot (even a "soft boot") flexes sideways to any appreciable degree. Canting makes a difference, and the insole is important IMO, but if you can roll your ankles and body in the right direction, modern skis (borne of snowboarding I understand) will hook right up and rail around. So could this be the same with snowboarding? Do we need all of this stiff stuff to really rail it? Tipping the board on a high edge and pressuring it just can't require a super stiff setup....or does it? And some ability to absorb irregularities, now that just can't be a bad thing, can it? (sorry this is way OT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboardfast Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think one can carve better in a hard boot set up than soft provided the person riding has the abilty to do so. However you can carve pretty well in soft boots these days due to the fact that the gear is good quality. I prefer hard boots because soft boots are too hard on my feet and are more uncomfortable and I get more performance in a hard setup on steeper terain and harder snow conditions.I enjoy riding my Dupraz d1 with hardboots in powder. If soft boots were adequate for carving and racing you wouldn't be able to buy hard boots because soft boots are cheaper and it wouldn't be necessary to produce the more expensive hard boot set up. Of course now it is possible to buy hard boot gear that is more versatile and better for all mountain riding. Hopefully the companies that produce snowboard hard boots wil continue to make them for a long time so that we can enjoy the comfort and performance that a hardboot provides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Nice job. Its so nice to see a board/ski company web site that's not a disgusting show of how much flash the designers could cram in there. Navigation is good, I can actually link to a specific page/image, etc. Nice job Sean. Oh, and the boards are nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 If everything works well with this new design, I believe we will offer it on a freeride. Mmmm, I can just taste a 168 Incline w/a Titanal sheet. Torsionally stiff, freeride flex, light weight, and about $250 more?! Twin-tip carver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Day Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 So, got a dumb question maybe but how well can a skilled rider carve with soft boots? Are we talking carving like the pics from SES last year or some of the extreme carving videos from the swoard guys? Or are we talking more laid back carves...best on soft snow kinda stuff? I'm not trying to start any flame wars, I just want to know how carvy a guy can get with soft boots. I hate to call myself a skilled rider. But if you go to the Bomber Store and look for the SES schwag under the accessories sections and find the 04 Sessions cover shot. That is me at Breckenridge on peak 10 in a toeside carve on a beat up K2 Eldorado 155 with my K2 Guide softie boots. So, yes a person can carve on a softie set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 So, yes a person can carve on a softie set up! Yes indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just ask Gilmour or Ken D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest naj Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 this topic (softboots vs hardboots) has been covered before, i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Back on topic - Sean, will your Titanal creations be available for demo at SES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 ohhhhh metal doneks! give me a price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Back on topic - Sean, will your Titanal creations be available for demo at SES? Assuming there are no snags in the next few weeks, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 ohhhhh metal doneks! give me a price! Nothing definite yet, but it looks like about $1200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Nothing definite yet, but it looks like about $1200. You suck! Not because its too much money, but because you are going to put me further into debt! When I look back at what I've spent on Donek boards over the years, I'd say I've gotten a great bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Nothing definite yet, but it looks like about $1200. man, snowboards are really coming into the price range of high end skis, a good thing I think for the builders as long as the market can sustain it. I've thought that a metal 179 Freecarve II would be quite the weapon, now I can have it! Sean, if you can Build tanker clones you might be able to pretty much sell half the posters on this board their powder decks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Sean, if you can Build tanker clones you might be able to pretty much sell half the posters on this board their powder decks. You mean, like a 192 Incline?? Or maybe a 203? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 the incline is radically different even in similar sizes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastskiguy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Just ask Gilmour[/img] The carving is great but Gilmour looks seriously double jointed. I mean, is that an edited image or what?LOL His feet and his body are pointing different directions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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